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Any open flame produces carbon monoxide. Its not a matter of being well venilated, just not incorrectly sized. Speaking of which if the room is only 10X10 you would need 10 or 11 foot ceilings to use the heater, even the smallest model.
Kenneth
K.B. Cunningham (Email Removed) blurted:
Hello, I certainly appreciate the responses to my post; but perhaps I was vague in my question. My concern was ... working altogether. I hadn't even considered the possibiltiy of the thermostat malfunctioning; but that too, is now a legitimate concern.

A friend of mine (and a few other people's here) just lost over 100 snakes to a heater/thermostat malfunction resulting in extremely high temperatures in his herp room. Unfortunately he was a breeder and lost all his breeding stock and everything. All because he was out of town on business and his wife didn't go through the normal check routine on the room.

This kind of tragedy CAN be prevented... Emotion: sad
fr0glet
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Hello, I certainly appreciate the responses to my post; but ... thermostat malfunctioning; but that too, is now a legitimate concern.

A friend of mine (and a few other people's here) just lost over 100 snakes to a heater/thermostat malfunction resulting ... wife didn't go through the normal check routine on the room. This kind of tragedy CAN be prevented... Emotion: sad fr0glet

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That really SUCKS. Emotion: sad
Anna
c1c0 (Email Removed) blurted:
A friend of mine (and a few other people's here) just lost over 100 snakes to a heater/thermostat malfunction resulting in extremely

(A poster?)

No, but a very active member of our herp society (and I know of at least 4 other PNHS members here besides me).
That really SUCKS. Emotion: sad

Bigtime Emotion: sad Lots of ill repercussions for him, too.

fr0glet
No, but a very active member of our herp society (and I know of at least 4 other PNHS members here besides me).

Oh no! Who?
Luke
Hello, I certainly appreciate the responses to my post; but perhaps I was vague in my question. My concern was ... discover the problem in time. I don't really want to replace heaters yearly; although they do run 24/7 during Nov.-Feb.

OK, I misunderstood your question.
If you are worrying about loosing heat altogether, get 2 ceramic heaters, with the first heater set at the temperature range that you want, and the second set at a slightly lower range of temperature, so that if the first one fails the second will provide heat before it gets dangerously cold.

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heater. Too risky.

Any open flame produces carbon monoxide. Its not a matter of being well venilated, just not incorrectly sized. Speaking of which if the room is only 10X10 you would need 10 or 11 foot ceilings to use the heater, even the smallest model.

The burning of hydrocarbons produces Carbon Dioxide (CO2) if complete combustion occurs, and Carbon Monoxide Emotion: computer if the combustion is not complete. The relative amount of each produced can vary between 0 and 100% depending on conditions. Blue flame propane heaters are designed to accomplish complete combustion. In an enclosed space, without ventilation, CO2 is produced, oxygen is used up, and with less oxygen available combustion efficiency decreases and CO starts being produced along with CO2. As time goes by efficiency of combustion decreases further, and the amount of CO produced increases. CO and CO2 levels go up.
There are two problems here.

1) Although CO2 is not poisonous, when it is produced throughcombustion it uses up oxygen. This is not good for obvious reasons.
2) CO is a poisonous gas and attaches to the hemoglobin in the bloodthus preventing oxygenation of the blood. This leads to death.

Like I said, propane heaters of this type are designed to be used in well ventilated areas. A closed room doesn't have enough ventilation to use these heaters safely. With other options available, it's just not worth the risk.
Another point. CO2 gas is heavier than oxygen and will tend to settle in the lower portion of the room. Relying on high ceiling height can increase the severity of the problem.

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LukeCampbell (Email Removed) blurted:
No, but a very active member of our herp society (and I know of at least 4 other PNHS members here besides me).

Oh no! Who? Luke

Anthony Talltree has lost his entire collection, barring two snakes who were elsewhere in quarantine and one adult royal python who managed to survive the deadly heat. Emotion: sad
fr0glet
Oh no! Who? Luke

Anthony Talltree has lost his entire collection, barring two snakes who were elsewhere in quarantine and one adult royal python who managed to survive the deadly heat. Emotion: sad

That is so sad. He had some of the most beautiful gopher snakes, too.

Luke
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