Hi,
We have had a 2 years old Saint Bernard for 6 months. He came from a shelter.
It seems that he was never socialized with other dogs and persons.

For the first 2 weeks, he was ok with other persons when he was outside, but after that it's a nightmare to go for a walk with him. As soon as he sees somebody he tries to go after that person and bite them. He's getting stronger every week and it's hard for us to keep him calm when this happens.
What we can do? He's adorable inside our house even with other people, but outside he's completely different.
We cannot have him inside our house all the time... we have been told that he's trying to protect us because he feels very good with us, and that we need him to get used to people. That's easy to say but it's very complicated, because we cannot be close to other people in the streets because he will try to attack them. We also took him to 2 dog training schools but he was kicked out because he tried to bite the teachers. Since them he always wears a muzzle when he's outside.

I would appreciate any ideas.
Thanks a lot.
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What we can do? He's adorable inside our house even with other people, but outside he's completely different.

Only on walks or in your yard as well?
We cannot have him inside our house all the time...

Ok, why not? He does needs walks and socialization but otherwise should not be out unsupervised.
. We also took him to 2 dog training schools but he was kicked out because he tried to bite the teachers. Since them he always wears a muzzle when he's outside.

What kind of dog training schools did you go to? I can tell you that a good school doesn't kick a dog out of a group class, without advising on one-on-one training instead.

Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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Hi, We have had a 2 years old Saint Bernard for 6 months. He came from a shelter. It seems ... teachers. Since them he always wears a muzzle when he's outside. I would appreciate any ideas. Thanks a lot.t it

dog-training school NOT your local petsmart... you need a real behaviourist
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take him out and socialize him with people when under control, give him attention so he does not have to act out to get it. and keep people out of your fenced yard.
Keep him in except during exercise and potty breaks
I have had the same problems with my dog, and I did contact a dog trainer and the information she gave me worked so well. The muzzle is a great idea, but you need away to get the dog under control. Next thing that would help a great deal is a shock collar. I know, mean, but it works, and you will see results. No they are not cheap but they are a good investment. The second thing is you need to purchase a a choker chain (Not a choker collar)or a pinch collar.

This will help you control your dog during his walks, and it will help you feel like you are walking your dog instead of the other way around. Remember one thing that if you choose to use a shock collar not to use the chocker chain at the same time. Keep socalizing him, and don't give up. I would look into another trainer, because a real trainer would not have dismissed you. They know that getting bit is a risk they have to take in order to work with dogs.

I suggest calling your vet and they should have ones they deal with. You also might want to call the shelter where you got him and see if there is anything they know of in the dog's past that could be the problem. Good luck and don't give up.
Thanks a lot for all your answers!!
Just for the record he is an "inside dog," in other words, he is never outside unless we are playing with him, walking him or going for road trips.
The info. we've been able to get on our dog is that he was abused, and he was probably kept tied somewhere. EVERYTHING was a new thing to him...stairs, snow, toys, even a ball! Over the last months we've been able to train him and teach him with LOTS of praise, treats, love and patience, but now the main problems are scaring people off and pulling on the leash as if he'd want to play "tug-of-war" (which we refuse to teach him until we get him straighten out).
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How do use the shock collar? and How about the choker? How long did it take you to train your dog? Did he have any abused past?

Thanks.
Thanks a lot for all your answers!! Just for the record he is an "inside dog," in other words, he ... How about the choker? How long did it take you to train your dog? Did he have any abused past?

Find a good trainer. If you can't find one right off the bat, keep looking. They're out there. You might want to ask your vet to recommend one for you.
Forget about his background. It's self-limiting.
You don't need an e-collar. You just need to be SHOWN how to train your dog, especially using *distractions.* And for your dog, anywhere outside would probably qualify as a distraction.
The trainer will also show you how to use a choke collar correctly, and probably the prong collar, too.
But don't give up. Stay at it; the longer you wait, the harder it will be to get your dog trained.
Good luck!

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The main point with a e-collar is to use it correctly. You have to have someone show you the proper way to correct the dog if you go this route.

I have a collie/shepard mix that I had to get one for. It has made a complete difference in her and I rarely have to use it now.

Celeste
The main point with a e-collar is to use it correctly. You have to have someone show you the proper ... to get one for. It has made a complete difference in her and I rarely have to use it now.

ANY training program and choice of tools is only as good as the person teaching them. In uneducated hands, a cookie can screw up a dog's training. Finding a real trainer, who is knowledgable about a lot of different approaches and tools, would be an excellent idea. What's right for one dog and it's family is not necessarily the right approach for another. I agree with HJM though - forget the past -n it only holds the dog back.

Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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