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I'd suggest teaching your dog some games, fetch for example

Through people I know, I have arranged for a special place in Hell for the folks who own retrievers, especially Labs, who don't play fetch with them. Handsome Jack Morrison

They do love to play, don't they. One of our daughters, the one who just lost the little doxie, Brandy, also has a large size yellow lab, Cooper. I know I've exercised him enough when he no longer brings the stick back to me and flops down next to the last place it landed upon my final throw. Although, by that time, my throwing arm is quite tired.

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Labs come in Small, Medium, Large, and "For crissakes, put the dog on a diet, ma'am" sizes. Unfortunately.

Yup. I'd guess, around here anyway, an average would be around 70 pounds. And I'm not talking *over-weight* 70 pounds. Old Yeller-like 70 pounds. ;-)

Labs run from 35 pounds or so, up to well over 100 pounds.

The Labrador retriever standard calls for dogs to weigh between 65-80 pounds, and for bitches to weigh between 55-70 pounds.

So we have a lot of non-standard Labs out there.
They run the gamut.

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Freakin' Democrats.
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"In the short term, this reflects the failure of the Republican Party to secure its hard-won victories. In the longer term, this may provide a new opportunity for the heirs to authentic liberalism - today's conservatives - as they often thrive when lovers of big government, by whatever name they go by, overreach." http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/08/why-liberal-doe.html

"The main proponents of 'universal coverage' want to throw more money at the current health care system, which strikes me as unwise. I believe that the 'universal coverage' mantra is dysfunctional for the same reason that 'more money for public schools' is a dysfunctional mantra for education. When your current approach is digging you into a hole, the sensible thing to do is not to dig faster. It is to stop digging." http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=080607B
Thanks for the suggestions. We have been to obedience classes although we are currently "between sessions" right now. This dog is not a "fetcher" - kind of hard to believe with a lab. He loves to run and romp with his older sister, other dogs and obviously children but he just ho hums when you try to get him to fetch. His older sister,
15 months, loves to chase balls, sticks, anything you throw though shewill not bring it back. She runs after the ball, snags it, turns and drops it and trots back for the next throw. Of course, the ball is
100 feet away. Anyway, we will do the very long leash routine withthe younger one until he becomes more disciplined and we'll recruit the neighbor kid and various nieces and nephews to help promote better behavior with children - the usual rewards for good, no rewards for bad. On more than one occasion we've had people shake their heads, tsk, tsk and wish us luck when they see we have not one but two lab pups. They are a handful.
Thanks again.
Dave Perry
Yup. I'd guess, around here anyway, an average would be around 70pounds. And I'm not talking *over-weight* 70 pounds. Old Yeller-like 70 pounds. ;-)

Labs run from 35 pounds or so, up to well over 100 pounds. The Labrador retriever standard calls for dogs to weigh between 65-80 pounds, and for bitches to weigh between 55-70 pounds.

Thanks Jack, so my guesstimate was pretty much on target. I believe our Cooper probably runs between 80 to 90 pounds now, because the last time I'd asked he was around 75 pounds but he looks to have grown a bit since then. He is definitely NOT over-weight. He's simply a big dog.

Now my other daughters chocolate lab is around 55 pounds. But she was the runt of the litter when they chose her.
What are the standards for the CBR's? I've only really known two. Drake across the street, and one belonging to one of my daughters friends. Both were quite large dogs, so I'm curious as to if that is standard for the breed.
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Thanks Jack, so my guesstimate was pretty much on target.

That there is size variation does not mean that the breed isn't considered "medium-sized." And 70 lbs would indeed be within the realm of "medium."
I have yet to see a 90+ lb Lab that was not grossly obese, but I suppose it's possible that fit mega-Labs exist. IME they resemble engorged ticks more than they do sporting dogs.

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Through people I know, I have arranged for a special ... own retrievers, especially Labs, who don't play fetch with them.

They do love to play, don't they.

Actually, they love to play FETCH.
One of our daughters, the one who just lost the little doxie, Brandy, also has a large size yellow lab, Cooper. I know I've exercised him enough when he no longer brings the stick

Just so you know, throwing sticks for dogs is very dangerous, and IMO, one should never throw sticks for any dog, but especially not for a retriever (their mouths are large enough to swallow small school buses, and they usually go for the gusto).
back to me and flops down next to the last place it landed upon my final throw. Although, by that time, my throwing arm is quite tired.

Get a friend and a couple of throwing dummies.
Space yourselves about 100 feet apart, and then just PING PONG the dog back and forth.
You'll each only have to toss the dummy a few feet this way, just to your side.
It's a great workout for a RETRIEVER, and you don't have to do much of anything.

Handsome Jack Morrison
In typical "reality-based" fashion, John Edwards wants you to give up your* SUV, but wants to keep *his 30,000 sq. ft. home, multiple SUVs, ride in private jets, etc. http://www.wlos.com/template/inews wire/wires.regional.nc/22b7034c-www.wlos.com.shtml http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u128/sapguy us/EdwardsHome.jpg

"Reality-based" thinker claims that torturing and killing dogs is no worse than eating at McDonald's! http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2007/08/25/lawrence-odonnell-compares-killing-dogs-catc...

Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week - October 22-26. Be there, or be square. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=782CE43A-F940-4F85-A13A-08CF7750A063

This* is the *real reason why the "reality-based" community pushes global-warming hysteria. To push you around and take your money. Senator Dingell now wants a cap on the Mortgage Interest Deduction! http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/08/dingell wants c.php

Freakin' Democrats.
"Reality-based" community clamors for housing bailout (at taxpayer's expense, of course). http://michellemalkin.com/2007/08/24/the-democrat-clamor-for-a-housing-bailout /

The "reality-based" community: Hopelessly Devoted to Failure. http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Mjc2NGM4NTBmYmUwYzRkYzNmMGVkMWZhYjU5ZjEzNDE =

Why "liberal" doesn't quite fit:
"In the short term, this reflects the failure of the Republican Party to secure its hard-won victories. In the longer term, this may provide a new opportunity for the heirs to authentic liberalism - today's conservatives - as they often thrive when lovers of big government, by whatever name they go by, overreach." http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/08/why-liberal-doe.html

"The main proponents of 'universal coverage' want to throw more money at the current health care system, which strikes me as unwise. I believe that the 'universal coverage' mantra is dysfunctional for the same reason that 'more money for public schools' is a dysfunctional mantra for education. When your current approach is digging you into a hole, the sensible thing to do is not to dig faster. It is to stop digging." http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=080607B
Thanks Jack, so my guesstimate was pretty much on target.

That there is size variation does not mean that the breed isn't considered "medium-sized." And 70 lbs would indeed be within the realm of "medium."

Yep.
I have yet to see a 90+ lb Lab that was not grossly obese, but I suppose it's possible that fit mega-Labs exist.

They not only can exist, they do exist.
Field-trial dogs, and about as fit, and heavily muscled, as a retriever can get.
IME they resemble engorged ticks more than they do sporting dogs.

Unfortunately, yes, some more resemble Newfoundlands than Labradors.

Handsome Jack Morrison
In typical "reality-based" fashion, John Edwards wants you to give up your* SUV, but wants to keep *his 30,000 sq. ft. home, multiple SUVs, ride in private jets, etc. http://www.wlos.com/template/inews wire/wires.regional.nc/22b7034c-www.wlos.com.shtml http://i167.photobucket.com/albums/u128/sapguy us/EdwardsHome.jpg

"Reality-based" thinker claims that torturing and killing dogs is no worse than eating at McDonald's! http://newsbusters.org/blogs/p-j-gladnick/2007/08/25/lawrence-odonnell-compares-killing-dogs-catc...

Islamo-Fascism Awareness Week - October 22-26. Be there, or be square. http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=782CE43A-F940-4F85-A13A-08CF7750A063

This* is the *real reason why the "reality-based" community pushes global-warming hysteria. To push you around and take your money. Senator Dingell now wants a cap on the Mortgage Interest Deduction! http://www.treehugger.com/files/2007/08/dingell wants c.php

Freakin' Democrats.
"Reality-based" community clamors for housing bailout (at taxpayer's expense, of course). http://michellemalkin.com/2007/08/24/the-democrat-clamor-for-a-housing-bailout /

The "reality-based" community: Hopelessly Devoted to Failure. http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=Mjc2NGM4NTBmYmUwYzRkYzNmMGVkMWZhYjU5ZjEzNDE =

Why "liberal" doesn't quite fit:
"In the short term, this reflects the failure of the Republican Party to secure its hard-won victories. In the longer term, this may provide a new opportunity for the heirs to authentic liberalism - today's conservatives - as they often thrive when lovers of big government, by whatever name they go by, overreach." http://blogs.usatoday.com/oped/2007/08/why-liberal-doe.html

"The main proponents of 'universal coverage' want to throw more money at the current health care system, which strikes me as unwise. I believe that the 'universal coverage' mantra is dysfunctional for the same reason that 'more money for public schools' is a dysfunctional mantra for education. When your current approach is digging you into a hole, the sensible thing to do is not to dig faster. It is to stop digging." http://www.tcsdaily.com/article.aspx?id=080607B
I have yet to see a 90+ lb Lab that was not grossly obese, but I suppose it's possible that fit mega-Labs exist. IME they resemble engorged ticks more than they do sporting dogs.

By the way, the new nutrition program up at the Cornell vet school has fliers up at the local vets announcing a new dog obesity study and that they're looking for participants. They'll provide food during the study, so there's a way to save some money. I'd guess that a lot of/most people with obese dogs don't realize the problem, hence the vet referrals.

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Thanks Jack, so my guesstimate was pretty much on target.

That there is size variation does not mean that the breed isn't considered "medium-sized." And 70 lbs would indeed be within the realm of "medium."

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