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I would suggest you always keep the pup on a long leash when at the dog park.

If "long" means 6 feet, I agree. Otherwise, that's bad advice. Matt. Rocky's a Dog.==

I meant a regular leash or a little longer but loose leash.
I wouldn't let the pup play. I meant to walk the pup on a long leash around the dog park to acclimate himself to the park, observe the other dogs and to get some exercise.

What kind of exercise do you suppose he'd get? Pulling to get to the park area?
When he is a little older and better behaved,

By magic?
I would let him off leash, to see how he behaved.

Just wing it? How about TRAINING - a novel concept.

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I meant a regular leash or a little longer but loose leash.

Long, regular, a little longer, and loose. That's one hell of a leash. Also, how rude!

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Tugging is what you make of it. Dogs are able to differentiate between tug and retrieve. You can tug a retrieve object, you can retrieve a tug object. It's all in what you've trained.

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Gee, I guess Shy is confused because she will willingly gives up her beloved tug object.
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You have no idea what rules I have with tugging and retrieving, or what I do to make any differentiation necessary. You have to take into acount each dog's personality. I probably wouldn't tug with gloves for a dog that is already kill-happy, but a dog that is less enthused about DR can find glove tugging a real motivator. Some dogs can be tugging fools on their tracking glove without going into kill mode in utility, others find it harder to differentiate. It's called knowing your dog, understanding how they learn, and tweaking training appropriately.
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And yet TONS of OTCH dogs play tug, and have no trouble learning a formal retrieve. When I'm ready to work Faith on it, neither will she. At the moment though I'm focusing on building her attitude, drive, confidence, and having positive, bonding interactions together. What I am doing is moving her nicely towards my goals, but thanks for your concern.
Hope
I wouldn't let the pup play. I meant to walk the pup on a long leash around the dog park ... It would not be dangerous as I would be holding onto the leash and not allowing the dog to play.

What happens when the other dogs at the dog park run up to him?

He's restrained, they are not. Don't you think that might feel a bit threatening to the restrained dog? That it may cause a reaction that you wouldn't want to encourage?
If my dog couldn't behave at a dog park, I wouldn't take her to a dog park. I definitely wouldn't take her to a dog park and restrain her amoung a bunch of off-leash dogs. Even if she behaved for a while, it would probably drive her bonkers eventually.
Jod
1. I don't "know" you, and 2. You've been here for more than a day. The first time I responded to you was on Monday. So, in your vernacular, I guess that would be "literally exactly one day."

Actually, I'm pretty well-known

Uh-huh.

I've known td in a different dog discussion group for years, as have some of other posters here.
I thought I first met her here, years ago, when I first subscribed to r.p.d.b. because I suddenly had three dogs and a DH.
> Gee, I guess Shy is confused because she will willingly gives up her beloved tug object.

When you get to doing the formal retrieve, and in competition, you may discover just how wrong you are about that.
There's a reason that every retriever trainer in the country, and every person who competes in retriever field-trials at the highest levels, frowns on playing tug of war with their dogs.

But I'm sure that you know better than them, so carry on!
> You have no idea what rules I have with tugging and retrieving, or what I do to make any differentiation necessary.

No, I don't. But I do know the rules regarding what you should be doing.
You have to take into acount each dog's personality.

No, you don't. Not if you're smart.
I probably wouldn't tug with gloves for a dog that is already kill-happy, but a dog that is less enthused ... utility, others find it harder to differentiate. It's called knowing your dog, understanding how they learn, and tweaking training appropriately.

Okay.
You obviously care more about tracking, etc., than you do about retrieving, so carry on!
> And yet TONS of OTCH dogs play tug, and have no trouble learning a formal retrieve.

Have you ever trained one of them?
When I'm ready to work Faith on it, neither will she. At the moment though I'm focusing on building her attitude, drive, confidence, and having positive, bonding interactions together.

And you can't do that without playing tug-of-war with her?
What I am doing is moving her nicely towards my goals, but thanks for your concern.

Good luck!

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Apparently you didn't read my original message thoroughly. If you did you would see that I suggested obedience training. I meant for him to just walk the pup around the park. He can walk his pup anytime anyplace he wants to, but when he goes to the park, I suggested walking the dog on the leash and not allowing him to run loose.
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