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For many, perhaps most, of the people that the average shelter encounters, failure to neuter is a sign of irresponsible pet ownership;

The epitome of "irresponsibility" is the sham of the shelter system in the US. The shelter system that you are a part of, having been a board president of a
shelter that killed 70% of the animals that came
in the door.
That's "irresponsible" "sheltering" Mustang Sally.

Quit blaming the people who create dogs for the
dogs you murder. You and/or your organizations
murder dogs because you and/or your organizations
are being PAID to murder dogs.
HTH!!
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They're cute all right, and they definitely look purebred to me. I am relieved to see that neither is a red and white bi-eyed.

Relieved for you or relieved for me? They're surprisingly dinky - both maybe 20" at the shoulder.
Is Image not spayed?

She's not. Her previous owners got her under the condition that she'd be bred (she really is pretty spiffy) and that her breeder would get one of the pups. It's a long story but that didn't happen and so when I bought her last year she was intact but hadn't been bred. Right now the plan is to have her spayed in the spring (after the snow melts).
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They're cute all right, and they definitely look purebred to me. I am relieved to see that neither is a red and white bi-eyed.

Relieved for you or relieved for me? They're surprisingly dinky - both maybe 20" at the shoulder.

Relieved for me. You already have one of those. Are the sizes consistent with what's posted on the site? It has the male as 40 - 50 lb and the female as 50 - 60 lb. Sibes can be pretty small - I think the smallest I've seen was a 35 lb female.
Is Image not spayed?

She's not. Her previous owners got her under the condition that she'd be bred (she really is pretty spiffy) and ... but hadn't been bred. Right now the plan is to have her spayed in the spring (after the snow melts).

Why'd they decide not to breed her? I'm just curious. Since the shelter spays or neuters prior to adoption, you'd think they would be open to at least considering legitimate reasons why some people might have an intact dog, or looking at other ways to determine whether or not such people would be responsible owners.
Mustang Sally
Relieved for me. You already have one of those. Are the sizes consistent with what's posted on the site? It ... - 60 lb. Sibes can be pretty small - I think the smallest I've seen was a 35 lb female.

There's no way the female is anywhere near 60 lbs. I'd guess they're both on the low side of the 40-50 lb. range. She's a bit shorter than Image but she's heavier boned and not as leggy.
Why'd they decide not to breed her? I'm just curious.

She throws her hind legs around a bit when she runs and it slows her down. Sibes should single-track as they speed up and she doesn't. Since there's not exactly a Siberian Husky shortage they decided not to breed her and since she was getting older and not as fast as the rest of the team they decided it was time to place her. I first got in touch with them about their breeding plans, actually, and it was about a year later that I drove to NH and picked up Image.
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - (Email Removed)

The Republican-controlled Senate blocked 114 of Bill Clinton's judicial nominees
Relieved for me. You already have one of those. Are ... think the smallest I've seen was a 35 lb female.

There's no way the female is anywhere near 60 lbs. I'd guess they're both on the low side of the 40-50 lb. range. She's a bit shorter than Image but she's heavier boned and not as leggy.

That is small for a male. Heavier boned and not as leggy is more typical of AKC (and BYB) bred Sibes, isn't it? I always wondered if Tasha might have come from racing lines, but she's big - - about 22" tall and 50 lb.
Mustang Sally
That is small for a male. Heavier boned and not as leggy is more typical of AKC (and BYB) bred Sibes, isn't it?

The dogs that seem to be winning in the show ring these days aren't extremely heavy-boned but they're heavier than what's typical of racing line dogs. As for leg length, they're comparatively stumpy, although leggier dogs are coming back into fashion.
But compare this:
http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2003/photos/breed/WR06488001.html with this:
(the latter is Image's mom, BTW).
I always wondered if Tasha might have come from racing lines, but she's big - - about 22" tall and 50 lb.

You keep promising to post photos - I'd love to see her.
Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - (Email Removed)

The Republican-controlled Senate blocked 114 of Bill Clinton's judicial nominees
That is small for a male. Heavier boned and not as leggy is more typical of AKC (and BYB) bred Sibes, isn't it?

The dogs that seem to be winning in the show ring these days aren't extremely heavy-boned but they're heavier than what's typical of racing line dogs. As for leg length, they're comparatively stumpy, although leggier dogs are coming back into fashion. But compare this: http://www.westminsterkennelclub.org/2003/photos/breed/WR06488001.html

That dog looks plain silly, with all the fur backbrushed up to his head. It makes his head look naked or something. It always kind of amazes me that there are so many Siberians that will stand still for that kind of grooming.
with this: (the latter is Image's mom, BTW).[/nq]
How big is she? From that angle, she looks like Tasha, or vice versa. Do you have any other pictures of her?
I always wondered if Tasha might have come from racing lines, but she's big - - about 22" tall and 50 lb.

You keep promising to post photos - I'd love to see her.

I know, I know. I'm going to have to dig some up now. I'll see if I can take one of her from the side, standing, to compare to the one of Image's mom.
Ok, I found quite a few digital photos of all 3 Sibes, including a reasonable side shot of Tasha. I don't have anywhere to post them to, though, except our website and I don't know how to get them up there. I know, I know, I'm a technomoron, but I do all the text updating, which is a lot of work, and his job is the pictures. I could email some pictures. Or post them somewhere with instructions.

Mustang Sally
This is the same SPCA that spends who knows how much money sending letters to shelters across the US extolling ... giving them money when they started doing that, but this was the first I'd heard about their no-intact-dogs-in-the-house policy. Crikey.[/nq]I think this is a case of a shelter trying to be a rescue. They have foster homes & policies that are outside the norm. To answer your question, its not unusual for humane societies to have policies like this (although I haven't yet heard of one who wouldn't make an exception for a show dog) but I've never heard of a shelter doing it. I've asked several shelters before why they don't have some kind of screening for people and have been told, time & again, that while they'd love to be able to screen homes, they aren't allowed because they are a shelter who accepts govt funds.

If someone wants a dog and has the money then they get the dog...period. Humane Socieites supposedly have more leeway because they do not rely wholly, or in most part, on govt money, therefore they can operate more freely and apply for grants, if they meet the criteria. Rescues can make any policy they want because they are completely private. So I guess I'm wondering how an spca can have a refusal policy like no-intact-dogs and get away with it. If its county or state supported then I'd think that their refusal policy is going to get them in trouble down the road.

Tara
Ok, I found quite a few digital photos of all 3 Sibes, including a reasonable side shot of Tasha. I don't have anywhere to post them to,

Sally, I'll post them for you, if you'll send them to me (as .jpgs) attached to an e-mail.

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