you want to know what kind of person your pal tpw is?

i just got a personal email from him (because i made the mistake of responding to you, i'm sure), cc'd to a bunch of other folks i don't know, in which he harasses and verbally abuses me about my recently deceased cat and the state of my health. yes, he's using the recent death of a beloved animal as ammunition to try to upset me.
you still call this guy amusing? i call him frightening.

-kelly
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Sorry, I've been going out of town all day every day for the past 3 days . . .
you want to know what kind of person your pal tpw is? in which he harasses and verbally abuses me ... of my health. yes, he's using the recent death of a beloved animal as ammunition to try to upset me.

How did your beloved cat die?
Juanita
How did your beloved cat die?

how on earth is that relevant?

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i call him frightening. -kelly

Kelly you are right about that. He has sent me
4-5 private emails in the past month. Each
time he talks about Murphy who we lost.
And he always makes mention of some
shock fencing system we have never had
or used. Which means he also fabricates
all kinds of things. It is quite disturbing,
so I fully understand you statement
of frightening.
Gwen
How did your beloved cat die?

how on earth is that relevant?[/nq]That's as apparent as the nose on one's face! For instance, if I allowed my cat to go into a dangerous situation, and the cat died, it would be MY fault for failing to protect it. If one got run over by a car because I let it run loose, if it got torn apart by coyotes, or dogs, or tortured by cruel people, or shot by unfriendly neighbors, etc., etc., etc., then *I* failed as a proper caregiver!! However, if the cat was a strictly indoor cat, who dashed out the door before I could stop it, and I could not catch it to bring it back in, and it was killed, then I would deserve sympathy from others because I'd done ALL in my power to protect it.

And anyone who would constantly remind me of that sad fact would truly be reprehensible.

In the same line of thought, if I have dogs and cats in the same household, it is MY responsibility to ensure the safety of all, and if I insisted on mishandling the dogs to the point that they would even CONSIDER harming the cats, and REFUSED to listen to the voice of reason on how to properly handle the dogs, then I would deserve to be reminded of my failings, being totally unrepentant.
That's as apparent as the nose on one's face!

sorry, but i don't get it. what does the manner in which kelly's cat died have to do with her getting harassing e-mails from someone? it's a non sequitur.
then I would deserve to be reminded of my failings, being totally unrepentant.

the Furies went out of style a long, long time ago.

shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
if I insisted on mishandling the dogs to the point that they would even CONSIDER harming the cats

WHAT??
Mishandling dogs will cause them to harm cats???
Aren't you the one who keeps saying "a dog is a dog?" Insisting that they are all the same? Well, guess what - it is instinctive for ALL dogs to go after small, furry creatures who run. It's called prey drive. The degree to which they act upon/inhibit this drive varies greatly from dog to dog, depending on breed, genetics, and conditioning (both nature AND nurture), but it's part of the definition of "dog."
How the owner treats the dog has no bearing whatsoever on what will spark the dog's prey drive. It can have an impact on whether or not the dog acts upon it, and how he acts upon it - i.e., if he's had specific conditioning to inhibit it in specific situations. But even so, when you're dealing with instinct, you can never be 100% sure.
I know an adult rottweiler with a history of being wonderful around all breeds, sizes, and ages of dogs. He went to the dog park several times a week. Never showed any sign of dog-aggression whatsoever, even if another dog challenged him.
One day a little Maltese ran by him, and his instinct kicked in - white, furry, running creature - and he grabbed it and shook it, killing it.

Was it the owner's fault? Not by a long shot! She was marvelous with him, and he showed it by being easy-going, friendly, and happily obedient. (However, some blame could go to the owner of the Maltese, who didn't confine him to the small dog section of the park.)
You are implying that Kelly abuses her dogs. That is mind-boggling.

IMHO, treating every dog exactly the same is irresponsible and can be abusive. Each dog is an individual, and if you are not dog-savvy enough to determine each individual's motivations/needs, you can do damage to that individual.

Yep, sock puppet. I'm done with you.
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And he always makes mention of some shock fencing system we have never had or used. Which means he also fabricates all kinds of things

Yep. The last time I saw one of his posts about me, Madigan had bitten me five times. I wonder what it's up to now. :}
Yes, she did bite me ONCE - when she was an adolescent, and I did something very stupid that got her overly wound up. She has never even put her mouth on a human again (plenty of tongue, though :}. I don't count the time she came running at me with her mouth open and tongue hanging out, tripped over my legs, and fell tooth-first into my forehead a bite. :}
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And he always makes mention of some shock fencing system we have never had or used. Which means he also fabricates all kinds of things

Yep. The last time I saw one of his posts about me, Madigan had bitten me five times. I wonder what it's up to now. :}

Well its sort of hard not to see something that is sent to your private email. Which is why I saw and read this. It's quite amazing.
Yes, she did bite me ONCE - when she was an adolescent, and I did something very stupid that got ... fell tooth-first into my forehead a bite. :} Canine Action Dog Trainer http://www.canineaction.com My Kids, My Students, My Life: http://hometown.aol.com/dfrntdrums/myhomepage/index.html

Nah, not a bite at all.
Gwen
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