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Oh! I just watched the HBO documentary "Shelter Dogs" about Ms. Sternberg. Good stuff.

While it's still fresh in your mind, go the the Yahoo group StopTheSueSternbergKillingMachine and read the earliest posts in the archives. It's a bunch of people who worked at her private kennel who disagreed with her assessments on dogs, many shown in the documentary. Particularly that Cocker. I don't necessarily agree with them, but it's interesting to read after seeing the show.
BTW - where did you end up moving to?
Lynn K.
Oh! I just watched the HBO documentary "Shelter Dogs" about Ms. Sternberg. Good stuff.

While it's still fresh in your mind, go the the Yahoo group StopTheSueSternbergKillingMachine and read the earliest posts in the ... the documentary. Particularly that Cocker. I don't necessarily agree with them, but it's interesting to read after seeing the show.

I couldn't find it under any variation of that title. Even tried to find using just "sternberg"
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Tara
And just this past weekend, a co-worker of mine had a horrible experience putting down her 14-year-old Cocker; the vet didn't sedate the dog, the dog freaked out and started thrashing

I had a similar horror show with my last smooth collie, Var. He was in grand mal seizure with a brain tumor, blinded and crippled by those final seizures, screaming in fear and pain. When the cluster started I had given him more phenobarb and rectal valium. All of which counteracted the euthanol. There was no question of pre-sedating in that situation. It was hard enough maneuvering a 10 lb dog in that state. The first needle broke off in a spasming muscle. The 2nd had no effect. The 3rd did the job.
There have also been some nasty ones with dangerously aggressive dogs. One had to be pts in the vet's office and we couldn't get near him. It involved using a catchpole, passing the pole through the crack between a door and the doorframe, then using the door to hold his body in place so his rear end could be approached with a needle. Thank doG that injection worked quickly because it was taking all my strength to hold that pole to keep his head up against the other side of that door.

Lynn K.
Oh! I just watched the HBO documentary "Shelter Dogs" about Ms. Sternberg. Good stuff.

While it's still fresh in your mind, go the the Yahoo group StopTheSueSternbergKillingMachine

I don't usually mess with Yahoo! Groups but...
http://groups.yahoo.com/search?query=StopTheSueSternbergKillingMachine&submit=Search

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'StopTheSueSternbergKillingMachine'.
It's a bunch of people who worked at her private kennel who disagreed with her assessments on dogs, many shown in the documentary.

I don't doubt that there's disagreement with anyone's assessment of any dog.
Regardless, perfectly wonderful dogs are killed at shelters daily. There's just too many stupid/irresponsible people. Quibbling over assessments seems pointless to me.
Particularly that Cocker.

Just from what I saw it would take a lot to convince me that the Cocker was a good investment in that situation. I would like to know if she called a Cocker rescue group though. Some groups are willing to deal with more for their breeds.
Our local shelter killed a Malamute who failed a food test after* being put on the adoption floor and *after I'd checked on her and was told that there was plenty of space (so she wouldn't be killed). I was in contact with a rescue that would have taken her. After that I tried to make it very clear that I should be called for Mals who are food aggressive.
That Cocker though...it scared me. (The little dogs really get to me.)
I don't necessarily agree with them, but it's interesting to read after seeing the show.

Yeah, I appreciate hearing both sides to a story but regardless of whether or not she's perfect by all accounts I learned a bit from the documentary and I appreciate the other programs she's started (Training Wheels and Lug Nuts).
BTW - where did you end up moving to?

Me? Move?
kyler
The first needle broke off in a spasming muscle. The 2nd had no effect. The 3rd did the job.

O.k., I'll go ahead and be the one to ask...
Don't you think a 12 gauge slug to the head would be much less painful for the dog? I'm certainly not suggesting it as a standard shelter procedure but I'm curious how many of us (would) do it for our own dogs.
Also, couldn't gases (besides CO - like iso) be used to sedate dogs before killing them? Again, I suspect that's prohibitively expensive for a shelter but it seems like something individuals could order.

I could deal with some gore or extra expense to know that my dog died quickly/painlessly.
Ug. Here I am watching our new puppy dreaming and I'm thinking about how I'll have to end his life someday. Time to snuggle in bed...

kyler
Don't you think a 12 gauge slug to the head would be much less painful for the dog?

Dunno. But we have to remember that the bad deaths by injection are exceptions, rather than the norm.
Rafiki, goD bless her sainted evil soul, tried to bite the vet when he gave her the injection. Very much in character, but not traumatic at all.
Lynn K.
I couldn't find it under any variation of that title.

Oops, my bad - they just used her initials. Here you go:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/StopThe SS KillingMachine/