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I've never been able to get the little guy to hold still for long enough to read his though. Emotion: smile - Mama Bear

When I took the one off our Conure it was a chore. Took 2 of us. Wife held him in ... to do it yourself a groomer or vet will do it for you, but I would take it off soon.

Aluminum rings come off easily with two cuts on opposite sides to the ring with "diagonal cutters" used for electronic work. It's best done with two people but I've removed a three from my own birds by myself. There's little stress to the bird.
Stainless steel ones are more difficult. There are many stainless steel alloys. Some will cut with good quality diagonal clippers, some are harder than the steel in the clippers and will break the tool.
The harder ones can be cut with an abrasive blade (about an inch diameter) in a Dremel tool which is a high speed multi-purpose hand held grinder/polisher. You can find Dremel tools and the abrasive blades at Walmart, home Depot, or most hobby stores. It takes about 5 seconds to cut through the ring but the ring will get hot if it's not actively cooled. I slip a thin piece of leather between the ring and the bird's leg which acts both as a thermal insulator and prevents cutting the leg from an accidental slip.

(BE CAREFUL!). Use plenty of room temperature water to keep the ring cool. It takes two people, one to hold and comfort the bird, the other to hold the ring and the cutter and to apply water. There's no pain to the bird but the noise and vibration does scare them some. As with the aluminum band it has to be cut twice because the band cannot be easily bent open. It does not hurt the abrasive blade to get it wet.
I removed stainless bands from CAG and scarlet macaw that way. Both were happy and cuddly immediately afterward and showed no ill effects.

I don't recommend trying to cut aluminum with an abrasive blade. It can stick to the tool and grab, possibly causing injury. Hard stainless will not stick to an abrasive blade and cuts smoothly.
I've never been able to get the little guy to hold still for long enough to read his though. Emotion: smile - Mama Bear

When I took the one off our Conure it was a chore. Took 2 of us. Wife held him in ... to do it yourself a groomer or vet will do it for you, but I would take it off soon.

But it sounds like people are saying that they should be kept on for ID, and so people know your bird isn't stolen.

- Mama Bear
Oh, and: gun-banner (gun banner), n., v., -n. 1. ... with 230 lb muggers and rapists. - Mama Bear

very true. I often tell people who say "I just would never have a gun in my home", something along the lines of "well that's fine, the bad people have to eat too, so you will make a nice victim".

We keep daring people to put up a yard sign like this, if they're so proud of it, but no one ever will. LOL!

- Mama Bear
We keep daring people to put up a yard sign like this, if they're so proud of it, but no one ever will. LOL! [/nq]
Here's actually a bigger graphic of it:
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- Mama Bear
But it sounds like people are saying that they should be kept on for ID, and so people know your bird isn't stolen. - Mama Bear

The best thing for that is a microchip. If someone steals your bird they would most likely remove the band themselves. They can be helpful if your bird gets lost, but again a microchip is still better for this. I'm not sure if they will chip the smaller birds though. You would have to ask an Avian vet.

"Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Michael Savage
We keep daring people to put up a yard sign like this, if they're so proud of it, but no one ever will. LOL! [/nq]
Here's actually a bigger graphic of it: :) - Mama Bear[/nq]
LOL, I like that. I can understand why few would be willing to put it in their yard though.

"Liberalism is a mental disorder."
Michael Savage
But it sounds like people are saying that they should be kept on for ID, and so people know your bird isn't stolen.

So how does anyone know a bird with or without a band is or is not stolen? Even with a legitimate band you'd have to check each previous owner starting with the breeder. Maybe you can determine who the breeder is but how about each person in the chain of ownership> You really need to check out the integrity person selling a bird. Of course that's not easy either.
LOL, I like that. I can understand why few would be willing to put it in their yard though.

I'd consider putting a sign like that in my yard. Do you thing it would work as bait? The downside is that after shooting the burglar I'd probably be charged with entrapment. Obviously putting lies on signs isn't illegal. Just look at any street corner before an election.
But it sounds like people are saying that they should ... people know your bird isn't stolen. - Mama Bear

The best thing for that is a microchip. If someone steals your bird they would most likely remove the band ... this. I'm not sure if they will chip the smaller birds though. You would have to ask an Avian vet.

But I've heard things about the chips migrating under the skin? It sounds scary.

- Mama Bear
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