Our 5 month old Standard Poodle Ella has been
with us for 5 days now. Although she doesn't
always come when called, I've been letting it
slide because I wanted to give her time to adjust
to her new home. However, the general consensus
seems to be that this is setting a very bad
precedent!
So my question would be: how the heck do I train
her to come when I call her? She knows her name
now, and she knows what "come" means, but often times she ignores me.
We will be enrolling in a puppy obedience class next week, I'm just wondering what to do here at home in the meantime.
tia,
~angela
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Our 5 month old Standard Poodle Ella has been with us for 5 days now. Although she doesn't always come ... enrolling in a puppy obedience class next week, I'm just wondering what to do here at home in the meantime.[/nq]I know that using a leash and prompting motion while giving the command works well with some rescue dogs. Its usually used as a combination technique for stay & come. Using at least a 6' leash, give a stay command and walk out to the end of the leash then praise. If the dog breaks the stay then start over. When the dog is holding the stay, give the "come" command and if necessary a little tug forward on the leash, then praise. Repeat until the dog has both commands down in a controlled environment then start working on those same commands in a disruptive environment (at a park or wherever there are people/dogs/noise).

Repeat that until the dog has those commands down well and then you can try the off-leash. To keep the training from becoming nothing more than predictable repetition, toss out the commands here and there around the house when its not a designated training time. Always remember to praise. I find that giving the command after the dog is already performing the action to be beneficial. Dogs are always coming to you in the house so being vigilant and praising the behavior, while giving it a name, also works.

Tara
So my question would be: how the heck do I train her to come when I call her?

Make it playful. As a start, in your house, have a friend hold her while you go to the other side of the room. "C'mere !" works well. A great treat when she does this.

She may be spectacular, so move on to an inside hallway or small fenced outside area. In lieu of a friend, a flexi-lead or another long leash may work well but is really cumbersome.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
So my question would be: how the heck do I ... knows what "come" means, but often times she ignores me.

I know that using a leash and prompting motion while giving the command works well with some rescue dogs. Its ... coming to you in the house so being vigilant and praising the behavior, while giving it a name, also works.

Thanks for the reply. I have tried this with Ella, but she balks. I'm starting to realize that she is a VERY independant puppy! She listens when she feels like it, and the rest of the time...well, the human can just stuff it.
Tomorrow will mark the one week point since we adopted her. I'm going to a trainer recommended by my vet to observe the class, it's possible that I will enroll Ella in it if I like what I see.

Being a new dog owner, I have absolutely no idea if I'm just expecting too much from her! she's only been with us for one week but she's already 5 months old. While she was well-socialized with people, she spent the majority of her time with other poodles in a big kennel. She really likes people, but seems to care less about trying to please us.
I wanted a smart dog. Now I've got one. Egads. Let's just hope that I* am smarter than *her. Emotion: smile
~angela
So my question would be: how the heck do I train her to come when I call her?

Make it playful. As a start, in your house, have a friend hold her while you go to the other ... outside area. In lieu of a friend, a flexi-lead or another long leash may work well but is really cumbersome.

This may work, since putting her on a lead just seems to annoy her (her response is to sit down, plant her feet, and give me a sad, unhappy stare).
My next question would be: what do I do if, even though I have goodies (although she's not very food-motivated at ALL) and I call her with the happiest, most excited cheery voice possible, she still does not come? From what I have read, it's a very, very bad idea to let her "get away" with ignoring my commands.

Thanks for your input. I'll just be glad when I find a training class that I like, and can enroll in it. I need to learn how to do this stuff! Once *I* know what I'm doing, I suspect that Ella will be a star.
~angela
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Thanks for the reply. I have tried this with Ella, but she balks.

What do you do when she balks?

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Thanks for the reply. I have tried this with Ella, but she balks.

What do you do when she balks?

Well, I don't know what to do. What I DO do (heh) is continue to give a short tug while calling her. She tenses up, stiffens her neck, and plants her feet. Eventually she'll get up. Sometimes she just stands there, other times she will amble toward me. When she does eventually come to me, I praise her lavishly and give her a treat...but I get the distinct feeling that she (a.) came not because I wanted her to, but because she felt like it and (b.) doesn't give a rat's patootie about the praise OR the treat (usually she drops it).

What should I be doing? I'd love some advice here!

tia,
~angela
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This may work, since putting her on a lead just seems to annoy her (her response is to sit down, plant her feet, and give me a sad, unhappy stare).

Put it on her and then leave it on her for a while.

Let her get used to it by letting her drag it around the house or yard.
(Yes, always supervise her when she's wearing it. You don't want her to get all tangled up on something.)
My next question would be: what do I do if, even though I have goodies (although she's not very food-motivated at ALL) and I call her with the happiest, most excited cheery voice possible, she still does not come?

That's why you should only do this when she has her leash on so that you can gently tug on the leash to get her to come.

So...until she's reasonably comfortable wearing the leash, forget about formal recall training.
Don't use the official command "come" until you're prepared to enforce it. In the interim, just call her name and pat your leg.

Work on getting her used to the leash right now, it's more important at this point, because you can't even take her for a walk until she's leashed trained.
You're starting your class next week, right? So just work on getting her used to her leash right now.

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What do you do when she balks?

Well, I don't know what to do. What I DO do (heh) is continue to give a short tug while ... and plants her feet. Eventually she'll get up. Sometimes she just stands there, other times she will amble toward me.

Everything you're describing above is pretty normal puppy response for the first few dozen or so reps.
When she does eventually come to me, I praise her lavishly and give her a treat...

Good.
but I get the distinct feeling that she (a.) came not because I wanted her to, but because she felt like it and (b.) doesn't give a rat's patootie about the praise OR the treat (usually she drops it).

You're expecting too much. She's just a PUPPY!
Just be thankful at this point that she eventually gets there.
What should I be doing?

Learning how to be more PATIENT would be nice.
It'll make you a better dog trainer, and your puppy will appreciate you more for it.
As I said in my previous post, just work on getting her used to her leash right now. You'll be starting class next week, and there you'll get all the hands-on help you'll need.
There's no rush, right?
Good luck with your new pup!

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