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Give them 3 days without food, and they'll be kissing my ass. Same as most humans..

Aren't you special? Real animal lover.
You don't want a cat, you want a robot. I hear Aibo has a nice model.

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Well, cats train best using classical operant conditioning (ie, clicker ... as it gets over here to the East Coast. Emotion: smile

That is totally awesome! I don't suppose you have any pictures of them doing any of these things? Emotion: smile

Not as such, but on my site you'll see pictures of them in sit and down-stays (the first page) and them on their leashes (mostly the Blizzard pictures in the 'adorable pictures' section). I'll have to get some pictures of them 'working' I guess. Emotion: smile
What reward do you use? I can't find one they like enough to do something special for. They don't like meat, barely eat canned, and don't much like the kitty treats I've tried so far, either soft or crunchy...picky ass cats. *G*

I use a variety of treats to help keep kitty interest high. Their current favorites are Nature's Recipe Training Treats (Petsmart special brand labelled for dogs, but most cats like them), little bits of beef jerky, and little bits of sharp cheddar. A lot of people will also use their cat's regular kibble for treats, but they will pick up bowls (if cats are free-fed) a few hours before a training session so the cats are feeling peckish.
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That is totally awesome! I don't suppose you have any pictures of them doing any of these things? Emotion: smile

Not as such, but on my site you'll see pictures of them in sit and down-stays (the first page) and them on their leashes (mostly the Blizzard pictures in the 'adorable pictures' section). I'll have to get some pictures of them 'working' I guess. Emotion: smile

OMG, they're gorgeous!!
And they like water?!?!
I wish my cats liked water. Bath time would be SO much easier.

Rowan draws the line with snow. She likes snow, but hates baths. Go figure. She walks like your kids do. The others don't care to go out. I'm trying to teach them that outside is fun, but they don't quite believe me yet.
I use a variety of treats to help keep kitty interest high. Their current favorites are Nature's Recipe Training Treats ... pick up bowls (if cats are free-fed) a few hours before a training session so the cats are feeling peckish.

I wonder if mine would like the beef jerky...
They don't care much for cheese. Well, Rowan likes Kraft mac & cheese, but that's not very portable. heh

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Not as such, but on my site you'll see pictures ... to get some pictures of them 'working' I guess. Emotion: smile

OMG, they're gorgeous!!

Thank you. Emotion: smile Luckily, the TICA judges agree with you. Emotion: big smile
And they like water?!?!

They're Bengals, so, yes. Emotion: smile They join us in the shower every morning, and a bath cannout be taken in the house without a kitty hopping in for a quick paddle.
I wish my cats liked water. Bath time would be SO much easier.

laugh* It's not, really. See, water is *swimming. Bathtime is yucky, even for Bengals. Emotion: smile
Rowan draws the line with snow. She likes snow, but hates baths. Go figure. She walks like your kids do. The others don't care to go out. I'm trying to teach them that outside is fun, but they don't quite believe me yet.

Do they freeze up when they're on the harnesses? Or do they just not like outside?
I use a variety of treats to help keep kitty ... before a training session so the cats are feeling peckish.

I wonder if mine would like the beef jerky... They don't care much for cheese. Well, Rowan likes Kraft mac & cheese, but that's not very portable. heh

Definitely give the jerky a try try to find one that doesn't use onion or garlic powder. Also, give the Nature's Recipe treats a try a lot of cats really like them, and they're pretty cheap.
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Well, really, we don't need soap. I just bathe them to remove the dander b/c of my allergies. Rowan is the only one who gets particularly dirty. She enjoys rolling around outside and trying to play with the ashes in the fireplace. I covered one of those with the new fireplace grate with doors that I got for Christmas. Now I only have a dirty kitty when she find a nice muddy spot to roll in.
So, I could do with them just liking swimming. Emotion: smile
Rowan draws the line with snow. She likes snow, but ... outside is fun, but they don't quite believe me yet.

Do they freeze up when they're on the harnesses? Or do they just not like outside?

They get scared. They're fine with the harness. They're scared of the big bad world of cars, dogs, and strangers. They do great on the balcony, but haven't yet decided they like going downstairs. They seem to feel safe on the balcony b/c nothing "evil" can get up there. Once I try to bring them downstairs, they do all they can to run back to my door.
So, I'm taking it really slowly with getting them to just go out my condo door into the hallway. Then we'll progress to the stairs. Then downstairs. Etc.
Jeffrey is doing well and will go in the hall. Isis thinks I must be insane to even suggest it. hehe
(Isis used to go out just fine, but was badly frightened by a loud truck with an asshat driver who came racing down our normally quiet street when we were standing right on the sidewalk about 2 feet away and hasn't wanted to go out since)
I wonder if mine would like the beef jerky... They ... Kraft mac & cheese, but that's not very portable. heh

Definitely give the jerky a try try to find one that doesn't use onion or garlic powder.

Or a ton of salt...
Also, give the Nature's Recipe treats a try a lot of cats really like them, and they're pretty cheap.

Does Petsmart have those, you think? Where do you get them?

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They get scared. They're fine with the harness. They're scared of the big bad world of cars, dogs, and strangers.

Aww. Poor kitties.
Though I could use a little more caution in my boys when we take them to Petsmart, Kefka chases dogs around. sigh
So, I'm taking it really slowly with getting them to just go out my condo door into the hallway. Then we'll progress to the stairs. Then downstairs. Etc.

Exactly the right tack to take. Slow desensitization is the best way to deal with fear problems.
Definitely give the jerky a try try to find one that doesn't use onion or garlic powder.

Or a ton of salt...

I wouldn't worry too much about the salt this isn't their food, and treats should never be more than 20-30% of their diets anyway.
Also, give the Nature's Recipe treats a try a lot of cats really like them, and they're pretty cheap.

Does Petsmart have those, you think? Where do you get them?

Petsmart is the only place that has them, actually. They're made by Nature's Recipe for Petsmart. You can find them in the dog treat aisle.
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They get scared. They're fine with the harness. They're scared of the big bad world of cars, dogs, and strangers.

Aww. Poor kitties.

I know - I think cats deserve to go out because it is enriching, but they haven't seen my POV yet.
Rowan is SO happy when she goes out. I think the others could learn to love it, too.
Rowan hates strangers, too, but our neighborhood is pretty quiet. She's not afraid of dogs or cars or anything and adores chasing bugs and leaves, so she deals with her fear of people pretty well. They can come about 3 feet, then she decides to move elsewhere. g* I got one of the neighborhood children to get *almost close enough to touch her once.
We're working on it.
She fears people, I think, because she has had to go to the vet a lot for her health problems, so to her, people who are not me are evil. That's another reason I'd like to find a good treat they like - to get them to trust strangers.
Jeffrey loves people once he warms up to them and he lets strangers pet him after some coaxing, so he'll be the easiest with that. Isis fears people because she was a feral kitten and never got socialized. I don't know if I'll be able to get her over that.

You come to my house, you don't even know I have cats. You see cat stuff, but no cats. hehehe
Though I could use a little more caution in my boys when we take them to Petsmart, Kefka chases dogs around. sigh

That has got to be the biggest riot to see. LOL
So, I'm taking it really slowly with getting them to ... hallway. Then we'll progress to the stairs. Then downstairs. Etc.

Exactly the right tack to take. Slow desensitization is the best way to deal with fear problems.[/nq]Yeah, I neglected one area of socialization with my dog, Sammie, without quite realizing it. Toddlers. There are none in my family and few in my neighborhood. When I realized she was afraid of them (we went to a park one day and she backed away from a 2 year old), I made a point to take her several times a week and do the treat thing. Start with toddlers a few feet away, then gradually get them closer while giving treats and praise.

She's almost totally over her fear of them now. She is still a bit apprehensive, but doesn't back away unless they approach too fast with their hands by her head. She shows submissive behavior still with flat ears and often rolling on her back to show her tummy, but she wags her tail and licks, so we're getting close.
(Note: Sammie is totally non-aggressive and not a fear-biter, just very submissive when she's afraid. I would not recommend this technique with a fear-biter unless the dog was muzzled.)
Petsmart is the only place that has them, actually. They're made by Nature's Recipe for Petsmart. You can find them in the dog treat aisle.

I have to remember to look for those.
Thanks!

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