I recently took ownership of two dogs thru friends. Princess, which is a 2-3 year old Min Pin and Lil' Man, 7-8 month old Jack Russell/ Chiuwawa mix. We have been having problems with the Princess more that Lil' Man. We know that somewhere down her life line that she was abused and have been trying to correct the problems!! She cowards down all the time unless she is in my lap (which is not just my lap but all the way in my face, she even claws at it).

If I walk to fast or step too heavy near her she acts like she is going to get beat and when I pick her up when she is bad she pees all over herself and sometimes me! (Now lil' man has started to do that too!) She will not go outside to use the bathroom (she will sit at the door and not move or finds trouble to get into)She holds it till she can't anymore them goes in the house. I have tried the leash training but she thinks that she is going for a walk in the neighborhood and gets distracted from going to the bathroom.

Then this last nite I went to climb in bed and laid right in a medium pizza size puddle of pee on my side of the bed!! And she did it with my fiance asleep next to her. I take them out when they are suppost to go, at least 5 times a day and especially before bed. They get walks as much as possible, and have the run of the house (besides the rooms we close up to keep them out) We thinks that she is the alpha cause she is teaching him all of her bad habits.

She has taught him to chew things they know they are not allowed to, dig up plants in the yard, and just all around not listen. I know that it is probably from old owners were she gets it and have to start from scratch, but is it going to be hard to train both? An adult and a pup at the same time? Why did she pee on myside with my fiance in bed sleeping? How do I get her to stop being scared all the time? Why does she refuse to go outside? Is she suffering from separation and being defiant? Please help me understand!
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I recently took ownership of two dogs thru friends. Princess, which is a 2-3 year old Min Pin and Lil' ... know that somewhere down her life line that she was abused and have been trying to correct the problems!! >>>

Some advice about dog behaviour here
http://www.takingthelead.co.uk/1/behaviour.htm
There are also books about "rescue" dogs with plenty of advice, The Rescue Dog by Gwen Baily is often recommended.
Tiny dogs are often nervous and submissive , not always because they have been badly treated but just because they are tiny and humans are so big and they get trodden on.
What sort of things have you done to correct the problems?
She cowards down all the

time unless she is in my lap (which is not just my lap but all the way in my face, she even claws at it). If I walk to fast or step too heavy near her she acts like she is going to get beat>

I would just ignore her. Don't try to baby her, this will just make it worse.
and when I pick her up

when she is bad she pees all over herself and sometimes me! >>

What do you do after you pick her up? She likely doesn't know she is being "bad" but knows you are cross and this makes her nervous.

There might be several reasons why she doesn't want to wee outside. She might have been trained to use puppy pads, it's too cold or wet or she was never house trained , she doesn't feel confident enough to wee outside. First , very important , don't tell her off or punish her if she wees inside. She will asociate weeing in front of you as a bad thing and will avoid going in front of you on walks or in the yard or sneak off to wee where you can't see her. Clean up any accidents with an enzyme cleaner , you can get them from pet shores.
When she does wee outside , when she is actually weeing in full flow , say go potty and good girl . Give her a treat as soon as she has finished. Keep doing this and she should associate weeing with Go potty and you can say this to her when you taker her outside.
We thinks that she is the alpha cause she is

teaching him all of her bad habits. >>

She's not teaching him anything , he's just copying her.
she gets it and have to start from scratch, but is it going to be hard to train both? An adult and a pup at the same time? Is she suffering from separation and being defiant? Please help me understand!>>

It's hard training two dogs at the same time. You need to concentrate on each dog and need to have seperate sessions . You will have to start from scratch but you need to have an understanding of how dogs think and how to train them.
Read The Complete Idiots guide to Positive Dog Training . Don't be put off or offended by the title, its a good book;)
Alison
Man all that for my little problem I just wanted to understand. You guys sound like you hate each other!!
Man all that for my little problem I just wanted to understand. You guys sound like you hate each other!!

Ok, you've obviously read a post by the resident wacko. Ignore him, killfile him, and read some reasonable responses from normal posters.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
I have been putting there noses up to it, crated them too, put them outside. Matter a fact I left for about a hour earlier, put them in the garage with the side door open so they could go out and do there business and when I got home and started fixing lunch one of them pooped on the carpet in the living room not even 2 mins after I let them in? What do you make of that? After I crated them for peeing on my bed this morning!
I recently took ownership of two dogs thru friends. Princess, which is a 2-3 year old Min Pin and Lil' ... We know that somewhere down her life line that she was abused and have been trying to correct the problems!!

How do you know that she was abused?
She cowards down all the time unless she is in my lap (which is not just my lap but all ... get beat and when I pick her up when she is bad she pees all over herself and sometimes me!

Severe insecurity is not necessarily from abuse - it can be from total lack of socialization. Don't coddle her or try to make up for imagined "bad" things.
(Now lil' man has started to do that too!) She will not go outside to use the bathroom (she will ... she thinks that she is going for a walk in the neighborhood and gets distracted from going to the bathroom.

You need to change that. Get a slip lead. When she doesn't budge, slip it over her head and lead her out. Stay in the yard. No production? Go back in and closely supervise/tether her to you/crate her for 10 minutes and keep trying until she gets it.
Then this last nite I went to climb in bed and laid right in a medium pizza size puddle of ... I take them out when they are suppost to go, at least 5 times a day and especially before bed.

Do you schedule their feeding? Watch them like a hawk (obviously not! ;-D).
They get walks as much as possible, and have the run of the house (besides the rooms we close up ... things they know they are not allowed to, dig up plants in the yard, and just all around not listen.

You have 2 untrained little dogs and she's the elder. It's your job to supervise or confine them at all times. Bad habits are harder to break than prevent.
I know that it is probably from old owners were she gets it and have to start from scratch, but is it going to be hard to train both? An adult and a pup at the same time?

You need to treat them both as if they are 8 week old puppies. From scratch. They need to learn and earn freedoms.
Why did she pee on myside with my fiance in bed sleeping?

Because your fiance is oblivious or a really deep sleeper? She did it because she can.
How do I get her to stop being scared all the time?

Train her. She will gain confidence through training.
Why does she refuse to go outside?

Because you allow it.
Is she suffering from separation and being defiant? Please help me understand!

She needs you to make the rules and enforce them. She needs you to schedule her feedings, outings, confine her when you can't 100% supervise her, and train her. Just like any dog. Get yourself (and your fiance) signed up for obedience classes with both dogs, and you'll be on your way.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
I have been putting there noses up to it,

Stop doing that.
crated them too, put them outside.

You need to TAKE them outside.
Matter a fact I left for about a hour earlier, put them in the garage with the side door open ... carpet in the living room not even 2 mins after I let them in? What do you make of that?

That they don't know what to do. Crate them if you can't supervise/aren't home, and TAKE outside so you can ask them to go and praise them for doing so.
After I crated them for peeing on my bed this morning!

Misuse of crate. Use it in lieu of possibility of immediate supervision, not as punishment.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
Wow it really takes alot to train a dog!! Our Corgi was never this difficult to have around. He was well behaved and loved everyone and everything And we hardly trained him at all!! Besides housebreaking him but for the most part he was great without training. I guess I just got unlucky and took on two different persons lack of training. But I got a soft heart and couldn't say no to the little buggers!!
Wow it really takes alot to train a dog!! Our Corgi was never this difficult to have around. He was ... two different persons lack of training. But I got a soft heart and couldn't say no to the little buggers!!

Toy breeds can be particularly challenging, especially where housebreaking is involved. When the work isn't done well or thoroughly, early on, you can pay forever. That's why I recommended starting from scratch. Assume they have no skills, no self-control, and no training at all. A good class can be a godsend to you, but so can some good books (in addition to classes). Try "Second hand dog" by Carol Benjamin.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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