()Aargh. For the first time ever, one of my dogs went over my (6') fence. I was sitting in my office and saw Cinder in the border along the porch. Thanks to about a foot of snow on the ground I was able to find where she popped the fence, but it looks like it's time to run a hotwire. Or would be, but on Monday a bunch of big, brawny men are coming to pull down the New England barn off the back of my house and to build a new exterior wall (and deck, natch!), and this means that they're also going to have to pull down a section of dog fence.

I was planning on running snow fence up near the top of the yard as a temporary containment system (and boy, words cannot express how much I'm looking forward to driving t-posts into frozen ground), but if Cinder can clear a 6' fence, the 4' snow fence will be nothing for her. Vexing.
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I was planning on running snow fence up near the top of the yard as a temporary containment system (and boy, words cannot express how much I'm looking forward to driving t-posts into frozen ground),

Not sure how you even do that this time of year.
but if Cinder can clear a 6'
fence, the 4' snow fence will be nothing for her. Vexing.

Any chance you can stack one 4' panel on top of another and fasten them together? And use 6' posts?
Cate
Not sure how you even do that this time of year.

I'll read a newspaper right before I head out to drive posts. That should get me going.
Any chance you can stack one 4' panel on top of another and fasten them together? And use 6' posts?

I don't think I've ever seen a 6' t-post but I can ask the folks down at Agway. Also, the snow fence I already have is the kind with wooden slats, but I suppose I could pick up some of the plastic kind. I'm also thinking of calling the people who put in the fence to see if they can put up some 6' panels for me. It's going to take over a month to get this work done, possibly more if the weather is bad (and you know I'm always hoping for bad winter weather).

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Heh. I think you've just outed yourself as a bluegrass fan. ;-D
() Aargh. For the first time ever, one of my dogs went over my (6') fence. I was sitting in ... frozen ground), but if Cinder can clear a 6' fence, the 4' snow fence will be nothing for her. Vexing.

Melinda, you have my sympathies. However, as I'm sure you know, if you have Siberians and this is the first time a dog has gone over your fence, you're pretty lucky. Or is that the first time one has gone over a 6' fence, specifically? Anybody ever gone under?

Anyway, good luck remedying the problem and keeping everyone contained while you're having work done. Can you snowblow around the inside of the fence?
Mustang Sally
Melinda, you have my sympathies. However, as I'm sure you know, if you have Siberians and this is the first ... pretty lucky. Or is that the first time one has gone over a 6' fence, specifically? Anybody ever gone under?

This is the first time I've had a Siberian escape. Ironically, my big escape artist was Greta, who had a clever collie brain encased in a big strong Newfie body. I'd been assuming that if Cinder escaped it would be because she tunnelled her way out - she's a great digger and has actually completely exposed the poured concrete base holding one of fence posts (and then she ate the dirt or something, or learned how to conceal the evidence by watching old prison movies).
So yes, I've been very lucky, and I guess it's now time to beef up the defenses, which is annoying because the house situation requires effectively lowering the defenses for a couple of months. I think I'm going to put a hotwire on the temporary fence.
How do you keep your Siberians in?

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Vexing.

i should think so!
you mentioned not having seen taller T-posts. i've seen them up to 7' at Lowes, so you should be able to track taller ones down some where. if you can't find taller welded wire, i'd suggest putting standard 4' welded wire along the bottom, then putting cheaper stuff for the last two feet. if it's a little floppy, it may keep them from trying to climb it. or not.
as for pounding posts into frozen ground, eeek! you can get cement blocks that are purpose made to hold T-posts. i've seen them used at construction sites. they don't seem as if they'd be that sturdy, but they work fine for stringing 6' chain link. again, Lowes or a similar place should have them.
and, a hot wire would probably be a really good idea! i'm seriously considering running one along the bottom of my fence, since elliott thinks it's fun to reenact scenes from Hogan's Heroes.

good luck (and my deepest condolences on your fencing challenges!).

shelly
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you mentioned not having seen taller T-posts. i've seen them up to 7' at Lowes, so you should be able to track taller ones down some where.

Well, the other thing is that I wouldn't be able to drive a 7' post. Being on the skinny, round-shouldered nerd side of the body type equation and being endowed with an
overabundance of no-twitch muscles, I have to stand on a stepladder to get the first 6" of the 4' posts in so that I can take advantage of gravity with the post driver.

However, the good news is that it turns out that Cinder didn't jump the fence. Further investigation this morning revealed that the contractors removed the windows in the extension and that she was jumping into the extension from the yard side and out through the field side, and then running around to the front of the house. The "footprints in the snow" (I always thought that was a dumb song - if he could follow her footprints to find her, why couldn't she follow her own footprints to get home?) were Cinder running *up* to the fence from the outside, presumably to taunt the other dogs.
I've still got to get some fencing in this weekend, but at least I don't have an immediate escaping dog emergency.
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Well, the other thing is that I wouldn't be able to drive a 7' post. Being on the skinny, round-shouldered ... the first 6" of the 4' posts in so that I can take advantage of gravity with the post driver.

You're going about this the wrong way. Unbeknownst to me one day my 10yo son pounded in some 6ft T posts.

I was amazed, and he showed me how he did it. Put the bottom of the post where it should go into the ground. Tilted the post toward him until he could place the pounder over the top; then let it slide down as far as it would go.
Put his hands on the post under the pounder, and tilted both to the upright position, then grabbed the
pounder's handles and set that post in.
You don't have to hold the post upright in position, then place the pounder onto it, IOW.
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