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I guess to me if you were going to get a dog aggressive huge dog to take care of, then I would tell you all about the pit falls that could happen.

I just did not see taking an elder IW to be such a problem.

And I definitely did not see the little dogs attacking the big dog.

When we are on this NG we all have our thoughts from our own experiences.

THAT is the ONLY way we can do it, at least it is the ONLY way I can do it.

You have always seemed like a caring dog owner to me and also to me IW's are pretty sweet and so docile.
Just because YOU see it one way, doesn't mean it's the only way that another person is going to see or experience it-

I understand this Shelly. We ALL SEE things differently though, just l ike all dogs are different.
So the only thing I should have added was In MY OPINION AND EXPERIENCE there should not be a problem, fostering this elder.
I will try to do that more so.
-especially someone
that isn't super experienced.

You have two dogs that you are taking very good care of. You know m ore than JQP for sure,so I thought that you could handle another dog to care for.

I tend to be a cheerleader when it comes to helping dogs, and want to root for the person and the dog, and give them support.
With me, I can read all the books in the world, but the only way to really learn (and gain experience) is by doing.

Yes hands on is the ONLY way IMO and IME. ; )
And I've just not been "doing" that long. But...you've got to start somewhere. Shelly & The Boys

Of course. We all had to.
Now it is true that dogs are very important to me, heck probably the most important thing to me, and my days are usually tide up with dog detail.

I shoot from the heart and head, and never try to give someone dangerous advice.
Anyway
Woofs
Paulette~
Not into substitute penises though.

It (along with SAT scores, come to think of it) is just about the only "me so fabulous" datum you haven't chosen to share.
Well by golly,rodger doger, I did not see it as much of a risk.

Everybody's circumstances are different - not just their living and experiential circumstances, but their individual tastes and tolerances as well. You've got a habit of pretending those differences don't exist. For example, you've said that you're home all day. Most people are not. I've been working from home for 3.5 years now, and it's made a HUGE difference in the amount of time, attention, and training I can give the dogs, and, by extension, how many dogs I can live with and still feel like they're all getting what they need. You've also got the paradoxical habit of handing out advice that would be appropriate for Chessies at the same time that you're asserting that Chessies are the most* this and the *most that. People are different, dogs are different.

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And I definitely did not see the little dogs attacking the big dog.

It can be a variety of things, whether it's the younger dogs "attacking" (or playing rough) with the older dog, or the younger dogs deciding that they want the bone the older dog is chewing on, or whatever. It may not be a big deal, but it seems to me to be really irresponsible not to consider the possibility. It's normal dog behavior to disrespect their elders, especially if the older dog is infirm. It's probably not going to be an issue in most cases, but it can be.

Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - (Email Removed)

The image is Adam Smith. The reality is Enron Joseph Stiglitz
Not into substitute penises though.

It (along with SAT scores, come to think of it) is just about the only "me so fabulous" datum you haven't chosen to share.

True I am not bid on publicly talking about sex, or sexual preferences.
As for my SAT"s that was a long time ago, and I really cannot remember what they were, and even at the time cared not that much about it, as I always was good at tests.
Well by golly,rodger doger, I did not see it as much of a risk.

Everybody's circumstances are different - not just their living and experiential circumstances, but their individual tastes and tolerances as well.

My tolerance is very high if a dog does something wrong, and I know I have stated such in the past.
As my dogs can do know wrong. Get the couch muddy, put a whole in my new sweater,eat the antiques, wake me up in the middle of the night,sleep on my pillows,OH WELL..
You've got a habit of pretending those differences don't exist.

I do?
You see how faire I am?
For example, you've said that you're home all day. Most people are not. I've been working from home for 3.5 ... and, by extension, how many dogs I can live with and still feel like they're all getting what they need.

Of course.
I work for myself, so they can be with me anywhere I go. Hubby works for himself as well, so they can be with him 24/7 at well at play or work.
You've also got the paradoxical habit of handing out advice that would be appropriate for Chessies at the same time that you're asserting that Chessies are the most* this and the *most that.

NO, I work with many different breeds of dogs and wonderful mutts, so I have come to know all dogs.
People are different, dogs are different.

I agree with both.
If you ever had a Chessie though, or known one you would know they are VERY difficult dogs, IMO and IME, and I have had and rescued many different breeds.

Paulette~
I'm amazed at how many people use this phrase to stop any sort of unwarranted grumblings...
It's the phrase my boys know as well. A resounding "Knock it off!" will break up any sort of activity that is just getting out of hand.

You mean you haven't picked up "HEY YOU GET OUTTA THAT!" from your days spent herding yet?

Melanie Lee Chang > Form ever follows function. Departments of Anthropology and Biology >
University of Pennsylvania > Louis Sullivan (Email Removed) >
You mean you haven't picked up "HEY YOU GET OUTTA THAT!" from your days spent herding yet?

Now, that -"Get out of that!", or just plain "OUT!" is something I've used for ages.
It started with Bren, when he was young and would want to dive into play-melees at the park - never a good idea, because his idea of doing so was to charge up, bellowing at the top of his lungs, and bounce in and out nipping at other dogs' butts and shoulders. (IOW, act like a normal coonhound with large prey at bay.)
He was just plain too loud and too much for most dogs when he did that. Not to mention that he started several fights (not serious one, but not play any more, either) by nipping other dogs from behind while they were play-wrestling; the dogs would get mad and go after, not Bren, but the dog in front of them.
Subsequently, I discovered that "Out!" is used in a similar way in ScH and suchlike training.
What's the context in herding?
What's the context in herding?
For some reason, it is the admonishment of choice. Dunno why. Guess it's a cultural thing. It's kind of all-purpose. You can use it to correct a dog that's working, to break up spats between doggie housemates, to stop a dog getting into the garbage, etc. You know, any time a normal person might just say "No!"

Melanie Lee Chang > Form ever follows function. Departments of Anthropology and Biology >
University of Pennsylvania > Louis Sullivan (Email Removed) >
For some reason, it is the admonishment of choice. Dunno why. Guess it's a cultural thing.

Hm. I hadn't thought of that, but it makes sense. "Gerrout!" and variations thereof are a British thing, which would bleed over into herding, I think; and being a halfbrit probably has something to do with why similar phrasing came naturally to me.
It's kind of all-purpose. You can use it to
correct a dog that's working, to break up spats between doggie housemates, to stop a dog getting into the garbage, etc. You know, any time a normal person might just say "No!"

Yup. That's similar to the way I've ended up using it- though "Knock it off!" is the phrase of choice for breaking up squabbles between my own dogs.
Howdy Sionnach,
Glad you liked the pix :-) A Saluki doing agility!?=A1=BF That is a first for me. I was wondering when someone would try it. I'm still waiting to hear about a flyball Saluki.
I'm assuming "BC" is Boarder Collie.
Frank X. Morris
http://community.webtv.net/Sulkhalil/SalukiCornerChime
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