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But you're veering off- topic - again, the notion that you'll never have an accident with a perfectly-trained dog is stupid.

Not to mention all the scratches, bumps, and bruises you get while you're training.

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I was chatting with my coworkers the other day and the conversationdrifted to pets, and then to stories of people ... to people, and not just by biting. How many here have been injured by dogs, or know someone who has?

Just a few I can remember... Penny tore my eyelid open with her dew claw (as a pup) when she jumped on my head while playing. Loads of bruises from Buddy, when we first adopted him he would nip when he was excited, I looked like someone was beating me for a good month.
No broken bones (thankfully) some broken nails and a lot of scrapes to my feet, legs etc. Buddy is VERY boxer like in his play.

All worth it, they bring LOADS more joy than they do pain.

Michelle
OOh, forgot a good one Emotion: big smile

Me too. I was sitting on the floor, and Madigan came running at me playfully, mouth hanging open and tongue lolling out, aiming for a drive-by slurping, tripped over my legs and landed tooth-first in my forehead.

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My bafflement was the fact she got bitten, and considered ... I guess that's why huskies are insurance ban lists. (shrug)

I didn't see an attack - I know what some people's attacks are like and thought that mild enough to ... tornado of energy outside the house but will, if satisfied with its daily exercise, be the ultimate couch potato indoors).

In the US at least, insurance companies are concerned about breeds because of potential liability from bites, rather than damage caused to the house by dogs. There is a good bit of controversy (of course) concerning the accuracy of dog bite statistics, which is apparently what insurance companies use to base their decisions on which breeds to exclude from homeowners coverage. Siberians are generally outgoing and friendly, and most love (or at least like) just about every human they meet. But as you say, a bored Siberian, or even a young Siberian, can do amazing damage to a house if left alone or unsupervised. Siberians are a handful because of their intelligence and energy level (and there's the hair), but they're also great companions for the same reasons (except for the hair).
I do consider being bitten an acceptable risk of having a dog - NOT an acceptable thing for a dog ... this tool as we would our hands and I would deem it reasonable for a dog to occasionally make mistakes.

Also, all dogs have teeth; therefore, any dog can bite.
I would also (rocking the boat a little Emotion: big smile) think it reasonable, if I really hurt or frightened my dog ... but that it should trust you - but that takes time to establish and is a life long learning curve.

There are some dogs that will never bite a human under any circumstances, and some that will bite a human when in pain. Tasha is apparently one of the latter - - she bit my hand when I closed her paw in a baby gate - - and I don't think any less of her because of it, nor do I consider it a reflection on her training. The incident showed us that that type of baby gate wasn't the best design for use with dogs, and we got rid of it.
Mustang Sally
Funniest dog related injury...I ran into acquaintance at the bookstore, she was on crutches. Typical knee surgery appliance being worn. Uh, oh...I asked what happened? She said "Slipped in dog vomit". That was also the reason, cause written in her orthopedic chart. Puke happens. Perry
How many here have been injured by dogs, or know someone who has?

Plenty. My own:When we first got Khan, he had NO training. We don't have a fenced yard, and he'd get the zoomies. In lieu of letting him run around free, I put a loong line on him (100') and let him run. He'd run in circles, and I'd turn with him to keep from getting tangled up. I got careless once, the rope got across the crook of my arm, and I got a rope burn. Of course, the first time I was careless, the rope got caught under my foot, and knocked me off my feet.

As brilliant as I am, I figured that it would be a good idea for me to sit down instead of standing while he's running. Of course, when he was done with the zoomies, he'd run full tilt right at me, and plop down at my feet. Once, the brakes failed, and he crashed into me. Since I was sitting, he didn't knock me down. Since I was sitting, he did crash into my face. Got a nice little black eye to show for it.
The worst was when I managed to dislocate my elbow. We were in training, learning to loose leash walk. Khan had a cut foot. We were practicing on a 20' cotton lead (BAD idea, in case anyone else is considering this), walking in the woods behind my house. I assumed, incorrectly as it turned out, that the cut on his foot and the humongous bandage he had on it would slow him down. I also assumed that since he had been walking well on his long leash, he'll be fine if I don't pay attention to him.

He bolted after some unknown critter, and instead of letting go of the leash, I held on to it. After I knew that something was wrong with my arm (I thought I had dislocated my shoulder, not my elbow), I still held on to it. At the point where my face would've hit a tree if I hadn't let go, I finally let go.
All of this happened within the first 3 months of us adopting Khan. While it certainly would've helped if I had been less of a clueless newbie, I doubt we had had enough time to get him to the point where all this would have been preventable through training.

I've witnessed plenty of accidents at the dog park. Mostly people not being nimble enough to get out of the dogs' way when they're running full tilt. Generally, people just fall on their bums (only bad for the ego, especially when you're a 200 lb. guy taken down by a pug). However, some people have wrenched their knees, or hurt their arms when they put it out to break the fall. Highly doubtful training the dogs would've helped.
Suja
How many here have been injured by dogs, or know someone who has?

I haven't been injured by my dogs. I train them.

I've been injured by mine, notably Friday. We play tug with a small slip leash as a reward after agility - a few times, I've misjudged. Dang, them cuticles can bleed!

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
I haven't been injured by my dogs. I train them.

I've been injured by mine, notably Friday. We play tug with a small slip leash as a reward after agility - a few times, I've misjudged. Dang, them cuticles can bleed!

Oh gosh yes. Lemme see. Cala barreled into me on a poorly timed cross (MY fault) and I fell, bruising a bone. She's also clipped me in the knee cap, leaving a lump on the bone, and so many bruises I can't even count them. At one point when she was a baby she kept missing the toy when we were playing tug and getting me right between the index and middle knuckles on my hand it took a year for the tingling to go away.

But my dogs have never deliberately hurt me.
But my dogs have never deliberately hurt me.

Do you know that for sure? Whilst fanging my cuticles, Friday's probably eyeing my jugular.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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