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Question: If you don't have an answer, why did you bother to reply? Question: What is the point of politicizing a newsgroup supposedly devoted to dog behavior?

LOL, you might just fit in around here.
I am by no means knowledgeable about interdog relationships, introducing new dogs, and stuff like that, but I do have one suggestion for the problems affecting your older dog: more structure.
You say he receives plenty of attention. You don't say what kind, and I could be totally off base, but he might act less bored, sedentary, and jealous if he got more mental and physical challenge. If you don't take him out for walks, that's an activity most dogs seem to really enjoy and benefit from. Training is another. Training sessions can be very short, 5-10 minutes, but dogs with aptitude (and Goldens are in that category) really seem to get a lot of benefit from the focused attention and the greater communication they get during training.
Special games, ball-playing sessions, hide-and-seek games, and so forth can also improve quality of life and exercise level. Probably the greatest benefit would be if he had a session regularly at a set time of day, by himself (without the other dog).
Something to try.
Amy Dahl
Any less socialization, training and exercise and he would have turned into a lump on the couch ages ago. As it stands now, he's a spectacular dog.

yep. Inactivity isn't good for any of us. When I have to be, due to some physical malady, the dogs get incredibly lazy. Not good for them, not good for me. Not always unavoidable, but I try. Heck, after foot surgery a few winters ago, I sat out in a wheelchair, in a snowy back yard, throwing with the chuck-it (I mean, RETRIEVERS are pretty easy to exercise!). These recent heat waves are much worse - bad for me, bad for the dogs, but yes, they do wrestly and play with each other, which is ONE of many reasons I have multiple dogs, but nowhere near the primary one.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
While we can't change history, suggestions for the present and future are appreciated.
When together, both dogs are never alone. The GR is fed, walked, petted, etc., first. The BC has been provided with her own toys and encouraged to play with those rather than the GR's.. We are in an urban environment, so separate spaces in the yard is not an option.
While we can't change history, suggestions for the present and future are appreciated.

what do you DO with these active breed dogs?

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
I may have poor dog skills and HJM may have people skills that need polishing.;-)
The GR gets along with some dogs and avoids others. He is usually hostile to those breeds with flat muzzles. I suspect this latter fact is due to encounters he had while he was a stray.
I can't change what has already occurred, what I need is information on going forward.
I can't change what has already occurred, what I need is information on going forward.

What people are asking is fair.
They want to know what level of activity this dog has been getting.

Its kind of a waste of people's time if you are unwilling to answer the more basic questions people have. People ask, because the answers are important in developing an answer. But you seem unwilling to do what you're asking us to do..answer a question.
If you've consistently given this dog ample exercise. socialization and training, then people would explore entirely different possibilities. If not, then you still aren't answering how you would actually be willing to change whatever it is that you have* been doing. Otherwise, since your choice for a second dog was a BC, a sedentary dog will, frankly, be the *least of your dog problems. BCs aren't prone to becoming sedentary when underexercised and undersocialized. Unfortunately, they become tough dogs to live with under those circumstances. And, meanwhile, you're becoming evasive and cryptic.
Good luck with that.
Tara
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I may have poor dog skills and HJM may have people skills that need polishing.;-)

I'm not a diplomat. I'm just an ol' dog trainer.
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yep. Inactivity isn't good for any of us. When I have to be, due to some physical malady, the dogs get incredibly lazy.

Rain or shine, malady or not, mine are quick to remind me that they're due for their outing. No matter which one starts, the other one is quick to pick up on it. They will knock it off when told, but I can't bring myself to, when the fault is mine.
We had company over on Saturday, and I was in the midst of my cooking-cleaning marathon, as usual. Since guests were expected around 6:00 PM, the dogs got walked earlier than usual, around 4:30. Right around 7:00, Khan came down, did a really elaborate stretch. When that got no response, he started swishing his tail around and Woo-Wooing. That always gets Pan going, and she jumped off the couch, stretched herself, played bitey-face with Khan, then came over to me with that expectant look on her face.

Running around the yard, playing soccer and frisbee do not count, and 4:30 is apparently too early to fit the definition of an 'evening walk'. They were disappointed when a third walk and car ride did not materialize.

Suja
Rain or shine, malady or not, mine are quick to remind me that they're due for their outing.

Not much can be done when immobile or the dog is restricted to leash walks (2 whole weeks, that's over), and it's what - a BAJILLION degrees with code red air quality? UGH.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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