Our older dog is 4-1/2 year old neutered male Golden Retriever mix. He has been getting rather sedentary and obviously bored. We thought it might be a good idea to get him a companion. We rescued a 3 month old Border Collie mix. Her disposition is friendly but not "in your face" and she is submissive. She wants to be friendly with him, but when ever she approaches, he either gives her a low rumbling growl or leaves for another room.
He will bark at her, not only if she plays with any of the toys he never bothers with, but if she plays with her own toys. The pup has been in the household for 3 days now. I realize that getting the older dog over his apparent jealousy can take quite a while. Is there anything we can do to help that process? We make sure he gets plenty of attention. Suggestions are welcome.
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Our older dog is 4-1/2 year old neutered male Golden Retriever mix. He has been getting rather sedentary and obviously bored.

Question: Why did you allow him to become sedentary and bored?
We thought it might be a good idea to get him a companion.

Question: Are you sure that you're not the one who wanted the "companion"?
We rescued a 3 month old Border Collie mix. Her disposition is friendly but not "in your face" and she ... with him, but when ever she approaches, he either gives her a low rumbling growl or leaves for another room.

Question: Why didn't you find out how your GR would receive the new dog before you actually got her?
Question: How does your GR generally react to other dogs?

Question: Did you ever try to find out?
He will bark at her, not only if she plays with any of the toys he never bothers with, but if she plays with her own toys.

Question: What do you do when he barks at her?
The pup has been in the household for 3 days now. I realize that getting the older dog over his apparent jealousy can take quite a while.

Question: Are you known for your patience?
Is there anything we can do to help that process? We make sure he gets plenty of attention.

Question: Do you think it might have made him less sedentary and bored if you had given him a lot of attention beforehand?

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Our older dog is 4-1/2 year old neutered male Golden Retriever mix. Hehas been getting rather sedentary and obviously bored. ... there anything we can do to help that process? We make sure he gets plenty of attention. Suggestions are welcome.==

Maybe if you are unable to find the time to walk your golden, you should hire someone to do it. It sounds as though the dog is very bored. The breed, Border Collie, is very active and must be exercised a lot or they will drive you crazy; possibly training the dogs, expecially the collie, to fetch a ball or frisbee would help.You have to be very careful when introducing a new dog to your family dog, especially a young dog to an older dog; I don't consider 4-1/2 old though. They should be introduced for the first time in a neutral area; not your retriever's domain. That is his home; his toys; his family and he most likely does not wish to share them with a pain-in-the-neck intruder pup. I would keep them in separate areas of the yard and house for about a week, where they can see each other and smell each other.

I know of a family who had an old golden retriever, who almost killed a sheltie pup that the family had bought. The golden otherwise did not have a mean bone in its body, but when the owner was not looking the old dog attacked the puppy, so they had to sell the sheltie to another family. In my case, I had an old Chow Chow who never bothered anyone, but was not afraid of anyone or any dog. I adoped my previous Rottie who was very tough. My Chow was a male; she was a female and she did not like all dogs as well as being female dominant.

I introduced the two near each other in a neutral territory. Then I kept the Rottie in a fenced in area inside my fenced in yard. Finally we let them out together after a week, and the Rottie was smart enough to know not to push the Chow around; she had respect for the old Chow. The Chow at that time was 13 years old and barely able to stand. I think this is a nice story about the two of them. They never played together, and the Rottie gave the Chow his space; they did nothing together and she kept an eye on the Chow at all times.

One day I heard a loud WOOF then another WOOF. Anyone that knows Rotties knows they only bark for a reason; they are very quiet dogs. I looked out in the yard to see the Rottie looking back up at me; she was sitting right next to the Chow who had fallen spread eagle on the ice in the yard and could not get up. The Rottie actually was calling me to help him. That happened twice another day also; both times the Rottie called me to help the Chow. That was near the end of the Chow's life; we only had him about a month more after that.

But I have never gotten over the respect the Rottie had for the senior Chow Chow. It was extremely moving. The Rottie was 5 years old at that time. She also has since passed from cancer, and I now have another Rottie age 4, whom I adoped 2 years ago.
Our older dog is 4-1/2 year old neutered male Golden Retriever mix. He has been getting rather sedentary and obviously bored.

Question: Why did you allow him to become sedentary and bored?

Question: If you don't have an answer, why did you bother to reply?

Question: What is the point of politicizing a newsgroup supposedly devoted to dog behavior?
in thread "Robin Lynn Frank" (Email Removed) whittled the following words:
Question: Why did you allow him to become sedentary and bored?

Question: If you don't have an answer, why did you bother to reply?

Because 4 1/2 is VERY young to be sedentary and bored. If the dog has health problems, then this is important information that you failed to give.
If there are no health problems involved, are you are planning on allowing the new dog to also become sedentary and bored? If so, perhaps you should re-think the 2nd dog thing.
Question: If you don't have an answer, why did you bother to reply?

HJM means well, and he's trying to figure out why your dog has gotten to this point. Elaborating, what do you do with your dog? Socialization? Training? Outings? Life?
Dogs who are understimulated can easily become rugs instead of thriving animals. They tend to shut off the skills that are useful in living with other animals and people.
I think he asked good questions when asking if your dog has canine friends, likes other dogs, is comfortable with them, etc. getting a new dog FOR your dog is never a good idea. Knowing your dog would love a companion and you wanting another companion to ADD to the things you do with your current dog, would be something good.

A for instance - several years ago, when I had just one dog (a Golden), we went to training classes, a park every day, cared for other dogs in our home. He enjoyed having another dog in his home and I enjoyed doing things with my dog and knew I had time and energy to do things with another one as well. The second dog, while enriching for my Golden's life, was not to solve a problem, but to enhance our already pleasant canine-humans life.
A decision to get another dog should be when you have time for two, not because you don't have time for one. We may be off the mark assuming that, but that's what HJM (and myself) are trying to find out. I would have worked on dog #1 first, and only gotten a companion if all indicators pointed that as a nice addition.
Question: What is the point of politicizing a newsgroup supposedly devoted to dog behavior?

THAT, I stay out of ;-D

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Question: Why did you allow him to become sedentary and bored?

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HJM means well

Not necessarily...

Handsome Jack Morrison
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Reuters admits altering Beirut photo!
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Hezbollah is using the UN as its ***.
http://jameshudnall.com/blog.php?/weblog/why the un is a joke/

The Brink of Madness. A familiar place.
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=ZDBhMzg5Mzk4NjQ5MjM5OTJhZjRjMWQ4OWMzNDhmMzk =

Obsession: Radical Islam’s War with the West (a must-see movie!): http://www.obsessionthemovie.com /
If you don't want your own DVD, you can view the movie here:

It's over an hour long, so make some popcorn, crack open a beer, and take a good, hard look at what's coming.

Or...you can keep your head stuck in the sand.
A decision to get another dog should be when you have time for two, not because you don't have time for one.

This right here is the best and most succinct way I've ever heard this put. And, its exactly what I was thinking when I read the original post.

I take care of a 4.5 year old Golden that I've known since he was 9 weeks old. Of all the things this dog is, sedentary would NOT be one of them. Not that he's hyper (thank dawg that's been over for years), and he has developed into a fairly mellow dog. But that mellowness is accentuated with at least one set of extended ball playing in the park, and one walk that's at least an hour long. The rest of his outside time varies and often revolves around potty breaks. Any less socialization, training and exercise and he would have turned into a lump on the couch ages ago. As it stands now, he's a spectacular dog.
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