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isis!
electric fenses are harmful to dogs as they are driven crazy by the EMF waves that are audible to dogs. a wooen fence is best, metal is second choice.
First, I don't like anything that causes shocks, however "small".

Stay away from nylon socks on wool carpet. Oh, and doorknobs.

My younger dog is really clumsy, and conked his head on a chair yesterday because he was walking in one direction while looking in another. Should I just go ahead and smack him with that chair for corrections? I mean, he's gonna do it to himself anyway.. :-)

Look, I said I don't like it..it wasn't supposed to a values judgement. I wasn't trying to start a war.
if i am pisspot, what are you!
ninny do ya want some whine,ing with all that cheese? meow, meow. big boys don't play with thier toy. they get extensions first so as to not embarras the neighbors while they are peeking busy at your computer whacking away, you know what i mean!
isis
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Look, I said I don't like it..it wasn't supposed to a values judgement. I wasn't trying to start a war.

No war, it's just that those of us with real world experience of e-collars (AKA "shock" collars) know that well-timed corrections from a quality e-collar are simply no big deal to the dog.

That said, I agree with your assessment of Invisible Type products vs. a real fence, but for different reasons.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.