I am in denial. There is no frickin' way we're going to get a third major hurricane. Nah. Can't happen. I refuse to believe it.

However...In case this nightmare comes true, I need travel advice. I wasn't happy about the way the kids were packed into the car when we were escaping Frances. Madigan was in the front passenger seat in her seatbelt, so she was okay. McTavish had the crate, holding his litter box, bed, and food dishes, so he was also safe and happy. There's only room for one crate, so I had to make a space in the rear of the SUV for the other two girls. I bought them harnesses, and used a long leash to tie them to the metal rings back there.

They had room to stand up and lie down, but no matter how I tied them in, they kept getting tangled. I was afraid they were going to cut off circulation to a limb or strangle each other. On the way back, I tied them separately and it helped a bit, but it was still worrisome. Also, if we had an accident, they would have been in danger of being crushed by the contents of the car (packing for four animals and a human for an indefinite period of time is not a small matter).

Any suggestions? I've checked out the travel section of PetsMart, but haven't seen anything workable.
I am so grateful for my SUV. I kept thinking about what I could have done if I still had the Honda Prelude. It would have been next to impossible to transport them all in an emergency.
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There's only room for one crate, so I had to make a space in the rear of the SUV for ... I've checked out the travel section of PetsMart, but haven't seen anything workable. I am so grateful for my SUV.

I have 2 Midwest side-by-side crates in the "way back" of my Explorer. I can fit another crate with the back seats folded down, or a loose/seatbelted dog. Packing fills the floor area and every square inch around the crates (you'd be amazed at how much can be squished in there!). I also have a rooftop bag.

A few years ago, I transported Lucy (at ~65#), a Rottweiler (~68#), 2 BC's, a JRT, a human passenger, a wheelchair, a walker, crates and food and water for all dogs for a full weekend of flyball racing. Seems to me we got stuck bringing a 5 gallon bucket of balls as well. Lucy was the only one crated, but it was a very well packed vehicle.
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There's only room for one crate, so I had to ... seen anything workable. I am so grateful for my SUV.

I have 2 Midwest side-by-side crates in the "way back" of my Explorer. I can fit another crate with the back seats folded down, or a loose/seatbelted dog.

Do you have a photo or a link to where I can obtain one of these or two or whatever.
I would like to have that myself.
Packing fills the floor area and every square inch around the crates (you'd be amazed at how much can be ... as well. Lucy was the only one crated, but it was a very well packed vehicle. Janet Boss http://bestfriendsdogobedience.com /

Yes it is true lots can be packed. And don't forget about the luggage rack. Which
of course you can also buy or rent from U-Haul one of those luggage holder things that will hold tons of stuff. Of course not living animals but you know
what I mean.
Gwen
I am in denial. There is no frickin' way we're going to get a third major hurricane. Nah. Can't happen. I refuse to believe it. Any suggestions? I've checked out the travel section of PetsMart, but haven't seen anything workable.

If I were evacuating from the path of a hurricane (for the second or third time in a month), I wouldn't worry about tying the dogs to anything inside the car. I think the more important thing is that you get out of Ivan's way if necessary. If there's no obvious, comfortable way to secure two dogs in the back, don't secure them. Just go.
If I lived in a hurricane-prone area, I'd also not have more pets/children/valuables/whatever than I could comfortably transport in my car.
Good luck. Again.
Cate
If I lived in a hurricane-prone area, I'd also not have more pets/children/valuables/whatever than I could comfortably transport in my car. Good luck. Again. Cate

Well I have that covered since DH also has pick-up truck. The cats would have to go with him
as well as the birds all stacked on top of each other.

Gwen
Do you have a photo or a link to where I can obtain one of these or two or whatever. I would like to have that myself.

http://www.midwesthomes4pets.com/ProductPages/Champ-SS.asp

Most pet supply sites/catalogs carry them - look for the place closest to you for the cheapest shipping (at least that;s what I do - compare not just catalog price, but shipping cost). I have the 36 x 21 crates.
Yes it is true lots can be packed. And don't forget about the luggage rack.

(that's where the rooftop bag is - it holds quite a bit and ties to the roof rack on the Explorer).
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If I lived in a hurricane-prone area, I'd also not have more pets/children/valuables/whatever than I could comfortably transport in my car.

Yup - just common sense! I can't fathom what could make me evacuate here (we've stayed during many days of power outages, etc), but I know how I'd deal with it anyway. Dogs in their crates, another crate for the cats and their box, and stuff jammed in everywhere. One reason to resist a 3rd dog - unless it's relatively smallish (I keep telling DH that a NSDTR would fit just fine), I just couldn't pack everyone in if necessary.
I have my car crates out at the moment, because I needed to haul a nunch of cabinets for a kitchen update. Silly me - I unloaded the cabinets and leaned them against the crates in the garage, so I can't easily get the crates back into the car!
That meant that the dogs "got" to ride free last night to go to flyball practice. Franklin assumed his normal reclining position immediately, and Lucy followed suit shortly thereafter. And both stayed in the way back of course, even when I DH got in the car when we dropped his car off for service. He didn't know they were back there (OK - what did he think - he had just been home and they weren't THERE! - geez).
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Any suggestions?

How much room do you actually have for the 2 dogs in the rear of your SUV? You mention that there's room for one crate, but for transportation dogs are often fine with a much smaller space. There's no way that you can fit 2 smaller crates?
Something else that I normally wouldn't suggest: an acquaintance flew 2 of her dogs cross-country in a single crate. Two dogs in one crate may be an option for you (but I certainly wouldn't do it in an airplane. fnarr). In an emergency, I know that Rocky and Friday are OK together in a 450 Furarri crate.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Something else that I normally wouldn't suggest: an acquaintance flew 2 of her dogs cross-country in a single crate. Two ... an airplane. fnarr). In an emergency, I know that Rocky and Friday are OK together in a 450 Furarri crate.

I do it when I am just driving to the lake and back. Less then 7 miles. But that is the only
time I do it. They seem fine. Maybe not the best comfort but it works.

I do agree I wouldn't normally do it. Nothing more than the above miles. Then again
in a real case of emergency I do think it would still work.

Gwen
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