Katie is a 6 year old ESS which I got from the local shelter 2 years ago. She is a great dog. Very friendly with everyone, knows her commands, and is the best tennis ball fetcher around!

She will NOT however play or have anything to do with other dogs. I've been bringing her to the off leash park a lot over the last 2 years trying to get her to be "open" to the other dogs. She just ignores them, and wants to chase her ball. It's like she doesn't even see them. Now, however, when they come up to her and want to play or say "hello" she will normally growl at them, and if they don't leave her alone, she'll snap at them. She's never really bitten another dog, but she certainly has scared a puppy or two who came over wanting to play.
Any ideas on why the anti social behavior to other dogs? Again, she doesn't go start any problems, she just wants other dogs to leave her alone.
FWIW, she was very shy and submissive when I 1st got her to the point that she would pee if I stood over her. This has all but gone away, and she is very outgoing now. She is a small, very fit ESS about 35lbs. I weighed her the day after I brought her home from the shelter at a very porky 53lbs.
I'm not really concerned about her anti social behavior, but if there was some way to make her enjoy other dogs company, I would sure like to know what it is. I've been wanting to rescue another dog that would keep Katie company while I'm at work, but she again wants nothing to do with them.
Ideas?
Thanks, Rick
Oh, here are some pictures of Katie if you are interested. The 1st picture is of her when I brought her home from the rescue. The 2nd is last week at the off leash park near Seattle (marymoore park) http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=viewall&albumID=107178511
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I guess you can't view these unless you're a webshots member?
Nothing at all wrong with a dog that doesn't want to play with other dogs. I have one and am quite grateful for it. She does play with a few other dogs, but doesn't care for strangers. Just chooses to ignore them. Some folks don't like cocktail parties or mosh pits either - nothing wrong with that, that's just who they are. Best to accept them for who they are.
We really should be grateful for dogs that choose to socialize with humans rather than other canines except for a few close k9 friends.
Katie is a 6 year old ESS which I got from the local shelter 2 years ago. She is a ... is the best tennis ball fetcher around! She will NOT however play or have anything to do with other dogs.

And if I were you, Rick, I wouldn't try to force her to do so.

For whatever reason, breeding, a lack of early socialization, etc., she doesn't enjoy being around a lot of strange dogs.

You should respect that fact, and just "go with the flow," because it's highly unlikely that you'll ever change her at this point, and you might end up making her even worse.
I've been wanting to rescue another dog that would keep Katie company while I'm at work, but she again wants nothing to do with them. Ideas?

Yes! There's absolutely no reason that she can't become friends with another *dog) (probably a younger male) but you it might take some time, and some trial and error, to find just the right one.
Oh, here are some pictures of Katie if you are interested. The 1st picture is of her when I brought her home from the rescue. The 2nd is last week at the off leash park near Seattle (marymoore park) http://community.webshots.com/scripts/editPhotos.fcgi?action=viewall&albumID=107178511

I think you somehow need to make your album a "public" one before all of us can see her, Rick.
And I, for one, would very much like to, too.
And thanks for rescuing her, Rick!

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Some folks don't like...mosh pits

There are people who don't like mosh pits?

Emotion: wink

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Try this link, I think its fixed.
http://community.webshots.com/album/107178511fatEGj Look at the difference between pictures 1 and 2.

2 years and 18lbs later.Rick
There are people who don't like mosh pits?

Hard as it is to believe..
Katie is a 6 year old ESS

She will NOT however play or have anything to do with other dogs. I've been bringing her to the off ... the other dogs. She just ignores them, and wants to chase her ball. It's like she doesn't even see them.

That's perfectly normal for an adult dog, especially a working dog who would rather work. Many dogs are not interested in playing once they grow out of the puppy stage, except with dogs they know well. Dog parks are a very un-natural environment, and the idea that unfamiliar adult dogs should play with each other is unrealistic in most cases.
Now, however, when they come up to her and want to play or say "hello" she will normally growl at them, and if they don't leave her alone, she'll snap at them.

That's also normal, especially if she's got her ball.
She's never really bitten another dog, but she certainly has scared a puppy or two who came over wanting to play.

Normal, especially if the puppies came bouncing up at her.
Any ideas on why the anti social behavior to other dogs?

She's a working dog, bred to retrive and work with humans. She wants to do what she was bred to do, without interference from dogs she doesn't know.
Again, she doesn't go start any problems, she just wants other dogs to leave her alone.

What's wrong with that? Again, it's perfectly normal for her NOT to want to be bothered by other dogs when she's working, and it's normal for an adult dog to be disinterested in playing with strange dogs.
I'm not really concerned about her anti social behavior, but if there was some way to make her enjoy other ... another dog that would keep Katie company while I'm at work, but she again wants nothing to do with them.

The fact that she doesn't want to be bothered by dogs she doesn't know when she's busy working doesn't necessarily mean she won't get along with a dog that's part of her home pack.
My eldest dog is fairly anti-social at parks- like Katie, when he's playing ball he does not want to be bothered- but gets along fine with the dogs he lives with.
Your best bet in a second dog, IMO, would be a young male, past the pesty puppy stage; a year or more old. Katie might simply tolerate the dog, or she might surprise you and be buddies with him once she gets used to him as part of your pack.
However, you should not be considering a second dog unless YOU really want another dog, and want to spend just as much time and energy on that dog as you do on Katie- and I guarantee you that she's still going to want you to throw the ball for her, and she may not be willing to share even with a housemate.
I spend quite a bit of the time when I'm out with my dogs throwing two balls for the two of my three who are serious about retrieving. They play with each other at home, but when it's time for playing fetch, they want to play with ME. And that's the way it should be.
Nothing at all wrong with a dog that doesn't want to play with other dogs. I have one and am ... grateful for dogs that choose to socialize with humans rather than other canines except for a few close k9 friends.

And Katie is great with people. At Christmas, she let my Neice and Nephew grab her , pull on her ears, etc, without an issue. She even learned to open her own Presents this year:)
She is the best doggie in the world (IMO:)) and my best friend. I'm lucky to have found her.
Rick
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