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shelly (Email Removed) composed these thoughts and posted them
futile? maybe, maybe not. And SHE started the dialogue.

it seems to me that she didn't ask for anyone's opinion, or for their advice.
But it didn't affect you as directly. Now, if the kid had HIT or SPIT at you..

WTF?! Jodi didn't mention that the kids had hit or spit at her dog. if that happened, i would stop them from harming my dog. duh. i already said as much.
I still probably would have said something conversational, like "yeah - I wish I could whine when I wanted something, and get away with it - he's lucky to have more limits than I give myself".

my best friend's mom does that all the time. it makes me want to smack her, because it's smarmy and passive aggressive. IMO, if you are going to say something, spit it out. personally, though, i generally choose to mind my own business.
To each their own, but if bratty kids had accosted my dogs, I wouldn't be silent to their caregiver. silence = condoning

we must be reading two entirely different threads, because i recall a lot of noise and running and general obnoxiousness, but i do not recall anyone's dog being accosted.
that's it for me, as it's clear we are participating in two entirely different conversations.

shelly
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I find that hard to believe. You offer unwanted, unsolicited "advice" here all the time.

i do?

shelly
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it seems to me that she didn't ask for anyone's opinion, or for their advice.

quote "she yells out, "Your dog probably didn't know what to do with herself when she saw all those kids comin' at her, huh?""
My answer would have been something to the effect that some dogs would have reacted by ripping their little faces off and she may want to curb that behavior.
WTF?! Jodi didn't mention that the kids had hit or spit at her dog. if that happened, i would stop them from harming my dog. duh. i already said as much.

I realize that. I used an example of how a kid would have affected you more dramatically than just whining (personally, I glare at them and they usually stop). They scare the hell out of Jodi's dog. She's the dog's only protector. If she walks that route regularly, it would be nice if the parents understood that their kids' behavior was not acceptable.
my best friend's mom does that all the time. it makes me want to smack her, because it's smarmy and passive aggressive. IMO, if you are going to say something, spit it out. personally, though, i generally choose to mind my own business.

Heh - I'm known to spit it out too. Like a dog club annual meeting the other day. I take Rudy. He's behaving himself and for a 6 mo old who's never encountered this type of event, doing pretty well. A latecomer arrives with her Boston puppy and sits on the floor in front of us. OK - Rudy is intrigued. He wants to play. I tell him "leave it". Then the woman pulls out a a squeaky fuzzy toy. I try to drop hints "sorry Rudy - I know you want that, but you can't". It falls on deaf ears. Finally, while talking to someone else (hushed tones - this is a meeting), I say "put the damn toy away". She does. Apparently, nothing but direct statement was going to make her have any freakin' common sense or manners.
we must be reading two entirely different threads, because i recall a lot of noise and running and general obnoxiousness, but i do not recall anyone's dog being accosted.

I guess that's in the eye of the beholder! I think Jodi's dog felt accosted.
Yes, I'm something of an idealist and since my job involves educating the public about dogs and their interactions, I guess it just flows from my mouth. Dog owners are having more and more rights taken away because of stupid people - I figure if even 1 out of 10 people listen..

Janet B
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If I was walking past the house anyway, and the ... you kids pull that crap". Not exactly hunting someone down.

perhaps, but i tend to think that it's futile, and perhaps counter-productive, to give unsolicited advice, especially when it involves correcting someone's parenting choices.

If and when the parenting choices involve my dogs, I consider that an invitation for my advice.
i was at the grocery store last weekend, and the woman in front of me apologized, in a sort of ... she did open the door for comments, but A) it's not my job and B) it's none of my business.

That's a lot different from someone's kids mobbing your dogs, isn't it?
Mustang Sally
If and when the parenting choices involve my dogs, I consider that an invitation for my advice.

that's certainly your prerogative. i would do what i had to to protect my dog, which might even include giving the parent a big piece of my mind. i think there's a difference perhaps a subtle one between that and telling her how to train her children.
for what it's worth, i would have assumed the mother meant her statement to be a sort of apology. clearly, she already knew her kids were out of control and acting obnoxiously. i can't imagine that telling her so would've been particularly helpful.
That's a lot different from someone's kids mobbing your dogs, isn't it?

the analogy was not meant to parallel what happened with the kids and the dog, but with the parent and Jodi.
as far as the kids and the dog are concerned, it sounds like Jodi took care of the situation by correcting the kids for their out of control behavior. as i've said several times, i would have likely reacted in a similar manner.

shelly
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Emily Dickenson
The other day I took Maui and Cali to the park for a nice long walk and right away, I ... boy take this large and uncontrollable dog to the park alone. But I guess some people are just that way.[/nq]A year or so ago in our old neighborhood, there was a charming little boy of about 8. His parents had bought him a lab. It was already several months old, and they wouldn't pay for obedience classes. The boy loved his dog, the dog loved the boy. As far as I know there has not been a sad ending to this story, by the way. Anyway, the mother would walk the dog when the boy was at school, and this lab would pull her straight across busy roads and basically just drag her anywhere it felt like.

The little boy wouldn't stand for that when he walked the dog, which was, by parental decree, any time he wasn't at school. He would stop the dog and yell at him, but in order to do so had to wrap his arms and legs around the nearest lamp pole or fence post and hang on with both hands. He had skinned up arms. I felt really bad for him. Katrina