Well, they all got adopted rather quickly this week-end. We don't often get pups and they are in demand. It was hard to let them go and I do believe a couple of the placements are likely to be trouble. Two of them went to families with 3 kids. In one of the families, the parents didn't have much control of the kids, so I predict a bad outcome. I think kids and pups are often a disastrous mix. But they weren't my pups and I had no say as to who they went to. Keeping my fingers crossed.
Mom got spayed today and this will be so tough for me to let go of. She is so bonded to me. I know that she will transfer her attachment to a new person, but it will be a heartbreak for me. I know that she will be adopted very quickly since she is such a sweet, sweet laid back girl with few demands other than love and attention.
Fostering is a very emotional thing to do and I think I will take a break for awhile. The good part is that my boy Boo was in such a good mood this evening when things got back to normal.
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Two of them went to families with 3 kids. In one of the families, the parents didn't have much control of the kids, so I predict a bad outcome.

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I think kids and pups are often a disastrous mix.

In general yes, ad if they cannot control the kids the pup gets hurt emotionally and physically.
But they weren't my pups and I had no say as to who >they went to.

That's why when I take on a Mom and the babies they are MINE and I have total control.
Keeping my fingers crossed.

Me too, tricia. Do they do a lot of follow up at your shelter? Can you yourself check up on things?
I hardly have ever adopted out a pup to a famliy that has children unless I feel they will be good care givers and let me guide them to the right way of bringing up the pup.
Usually they get the pup for the kids, then by 6 months when the dog is not trained he/she goes outside,then the pup barks, so they move him further away, and then pretty soon they even forget to feed the dog. : (

I'm a bundle of good news, huh?
I always remember this dog named Oscar, (English Setter)who was owned by an important person here and after the initial newness wore off Oscar was allocated to the dog house, and when I finally rescued him his collar was imbedded into his windpipe, as they never bother to change his collar from puppy hood. : (
Mom got spayed today and this will be so tough for me to let go of. She is so bonded to me. I know that she will transfer her attachment to a new person, but it will be a heartbreak for me.

You see I told you that your heart will ache.
I know that she will be adopted very quickly since she is such a sweet, sweet laid back girl with few demands other than love and attention.

Hopefully the person that gets her you will like.
I stopped doing raising puppies for the blind, as my last dog, the person that got him, I though was abusive.
I would have nightmares for months.
Fostering is a very emotional thing to do and I think I will take a break for awhile.

Yes, it is. Having a dog that you have rescued and then letting her go is so stressful. Then you worry about her all the time.
I know it takes a lot out of me.
The good part is that my boy Boo was in such a good >mood this evening when things got back to normal.

)
You did a great thing, and your Mom dog will always remember you, I am sure of that!
doG BLess
Paulette~
I hardly have ever adopted out a pup to a famliy that has children unless I feel they will be good care givers and let me guide them to the right way of bringing up the pup.

I do rather get my back up against the wall when generalizing about kid like this. Especially since I am involved in Agility and some of the best trainers happen to be Junior handlers. I agree that in many instances it can be a bad mix especially when or if kids are under the age of 5. But again I have seen some very awesome 10-12 year old junior handlers which
very much fall under the definition of children.
Usually they get the pup for the kids, then by 6 months when the dog is not trained he/she goes outside,then the pup barks, so they move him further away, and then pretty soon they even forget to feed the dog. : (

Again I see this as bit too generalized. I really do think the general Public is becoming more and more dog saavy than ever before and lots of people never do the above. But again it does happen in some cases but typically it happens with small children. One of our best friends has two fairly young kiddos and a GSP that is adored by all. I think interviewing is the key and ascertaining the level of dog knowledge.
Gwen
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Especially since I am involved in Agility and some of the best trainers happen to be Junior handlers.

I should have clarified. I feel that kids under 6 with puppies unless supervised can hurtthepup, and lots of times Mom's do not have the time to take care of all the young pups.
Most of my give ups are from people that got a pup and the pup got aggressive ,due to lack of socializing and training,or they did not have any time for them ,as the kids got bored with the dog.
I agree that in many instances it can be a bad mix especially when or if kids are under the age of 5. But again I have seen some very awesome 10-12 year old junior handlers which very much fall under the definition of children.

I feel a 12 year ols is pretty grown up and SHOULD be like a little adult.

Well Gwen, this is IME,of course.
I really do think the general Public is becoming more and more dog saavy than ever before and lots of people never do the above.

I wish I could agree with you.
Unfortunately I can't, as I see it happen all the time.

If you are not involved with rescue or work in a pound or shelter you never know all the bad things that happen.
But again it does happen in some cases but typically it happens with small children.

Well that is whatI am saying. It can a d does happen , just like anythign can happen.
One of our best friends has two fairly young kiddos and a GSP that is adored by all. I think interviewing is the key and ascertaining the level of dog knowledge.

Right
I do rather get my back up against the wall when generalizing about kid like this. Especially since I am involved in Agility and some of the best trainers happen to be Junior handlers.

I agree with this, but I think a family with a lot of kids should adopt a dog already past the toothy, nightmare 9 week age. Puppies are a mistake I think. It's like a new person to riding - put them on an experienced calm horse, not a green one.
I should have clarified. I feel that kids under 6 with puppies unless supervised can hurtthepup, and lots of times Mom's do not have the time to take care of all the young pups.

A chessie? I would think it would be most frequently the other way around which would be the reason dog would be shunned to outside.

Now if we were talking papillion and or pom etc then yes small kids should just about never have one of these. But there are many small kids that are fairly responsible if raised properly. Of course I admit that is probably a bit rare.
Most of my give ups are from people that got a pup and the pup got aggressive ,due to lack of socializing and training,or they did not have any time for them ,as the kids got bored with the dog.

I would venture to say most of your give-ups also came from unethical, irresponsible breeders that did not interview and or take the time to evaluate said home. Also the said breeder probably disappeared when the family needed training tips. Ethical breeders do not often sell their pups to homes with small kids.
I agree that in many instances it can be a ... handlers which very much fall under the definition of children.

I feel a 12 year ols is pretty grown up and SHOULD be like a little adult.

I would have to say you haven't had any 12 year olds then. And why should a 12 year old child be expected to be a adult like? I really think kids grow up way too fast these days. If they should be adult like than they should be able to do adult things as well. They aren't. Some are very under developed as far as concentration and some responsibility.

I personally do not think even a 15 year old should be adult like most of the time. JMO
not away, Again I see this as bit too generalized.

Well Gwen, this is IME,of course.

I realize this.
I really do think the general Public is becoming more and more dog saavy than ever before and lots of people never do the above.

I wish I could agree with you. Unfortunately I can't, as I see it happen all the time. If you are not involved with rescue or work in a pound or shelter you never know all the bad things that happen.

I have volunteered at a shelter. I have seen. I have also assisted with Aussie rescue some as well as GSD, in the past. And what I have seen is dogs being returned that were bred by BYB'ers. Even mixes are similar as there are enough BYB that think a chow/pit cross or chow/GSD cross or GSD/rottie cross is way cool and quite the cheap selling point. The problem isn't so much the home but the lack of education these people provide to the potential home. But I understand you see a lot more than me, but I would be willing to wager some bets these returns did not come from an ethical breeder with a contract and application and interview process.
But again it does happen in some cases but typically it happens with small children.

Well that is whatI am saying. It can a d does happen , just like anythign can happen.

True.
One of our best friends has two fairly young kiddos ... is the key and ascertaining the level of dog knowledge.

Right

Indeed.
Gwen
I do rather get my back up against the wall ... some of the best trainers happen to be Junior handlers.

I agree with this, but I think a family with a lot of kids should adopt a dog already past ... think. It's like a new person to riding - put them on an experienced calm horse, not a green one.

I agree with this Tricia. I definitely do.
Gwen
and lots of times Mom's do not have the time to take care of all the young pups.

Right. Mom is usually the lifesaver in any situation. If she is overwhelmed with all her parenting duties, the pup gets put on the back burner. I have a friend who is a complete dog nut who has recently had a baby. She realizes how much less attention her dog is getting - of course it is an infant, but it happens with grade school kids too, I believe.
I do rather get my back up against the wall ... some of the best trainers happen to be Junior handlers.

I agree with this, but I think a family with a lot of kids should adopt a dog already past ... think. It's like a new person to riding - put them on an experienced calm horse, not a green one.

Everyone deserves a chance,of course. I have adopted out pups to people with well behaved children : )
I just like to cut my losses from the get go.
Paulette~
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