We brought a Nanday Conure small parrot (weight 150 grams) some 6 months ago, legally into Canada. The bird flew through the window into our apartment while staying in Miami. Today, we are very much, attached to this lovely intelligent bird, and it adopted us perfectly.
We live in a condominium building in Toronto for the last 13 years and never had any quarrel with neighbours, on the contrary we have here lots of good friends.
A few days ago I received from the management a printed matter i.e. "Condominium Bylaws & Rule" in which the following sentence appears: "No animal shall be allowed or kept in or about any unit or common element."

Could anyone in this esteemed group enlighten me if I can get successfully around this law with or without judicial help?
Thanks you very much for any help!
Kurt
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We brought a Nanday Conure small parrot (weight 150 grams) some 6 months ago, legally into Canada. The bird flew ... anyone in this esteemed group enlighten me if I can get successfully around this law with or without judicial help?

Did the management give you this list of bylaws and rules because of your bird, or was just a routine distribution? In other words, do they know you're keeping a pet?

If the management doesn't know about your bird, the best thing to do is nothing. If they do know about it and are asking you to remove it, then do so. Find a friend or relative to take care of it for a few days (or maybe just one day, if the management wants to schedule a specific day to come in and verify it's been removed). Then bring it back home the following day.
At least from my experience, most managers won't hassle residents about pets, even if pets aren't allowed in a complex, unless they're receiving complaints. Conures can be loud, and it's possible one of your neighbors is complaining to management without your knowlege.
Rick
Dear Rick,
Thank you so much indeed, I can feel a heavy stone starts rolling off my chest! I will follow exactly what you suggest. With the very hope that it will work, it might sound silly, but the bond between our conure and us is rather unbelievably strong. I would have never believed that before we before we brought the bird home.
All the best to you, Kurt
We brought a Nanday Conure small parrot (weight 150 grams) ... can getsuccessfully around this law with or without judicial help?

Did the management give you this list of bylaws and rules because of your bird, or was just a routine ... complaints. Conures can be loud, and it's possible one of your neighbors is complaining to management without your knowlege. Rick

Actually, landlords can and do evict tenants that have pets when it is not allowed. It happened to me with my cat. Turned out the cat was much better company than my room mates were, so it worked out for me.

Laurie
A few days ago I received from the management a printed matter i.e. "Condominium Bylaws & Rule" in which the following sentence appears: "No animal shall be allowed or kept in or about any unit or common element."

Is that a new law that wasn't in place when you bought your condo? I wouldn't lie about the fact that you have the bird if that bylaw was in the contract/lease you originally signed.
If it's a new law, you may have some sort of legal recourse, but I'm not a lawyer so can't help you with that.
Becky
At least from my experience, most managers won't hassle residents ... of your neighbors is complaining to management without your knowlege.

Actually, landlords can and do evict tenants that have pets when it is not allowed. It happened to me with my cat. Turned out the cat was much better company than my room mates were, so it worked out for me.

-) If anything good has come from the horrible economy here in my part of CA, it's that some property managers and owners are easing up on these stupid no-pet policies. In the place we're in now, they said it was ok to keep birds, even though it's still written in the lease that no pets are allowed. They even took an extra $200 deposit for our birds before we moved in.
Rick
A few days ago I received from the management a ... or kept in or about any unit or common element."

Is that a new law that wasn't in place when you bought your condo? I wouldn't lie about the fact ... you may have some sort of legal recourse, but I'm not a lawyer so can't help you with that. Becky

I have a real problem with owning my dwelling and having someone else, bylaws or not, telling me I can or cannot have a pet. That's like saying I can't paint my house purple if I so choose. Hell, I bought the place.

It's one thing if you are keeping flocks of birds which might be disturbing the neighbors. Or having cats which are allowed to wander all over, or dogs doing their 'business' in the neighbors yards.
It's quite another if you own the place, keep the peace, don't let your parrot disturb people and then they start harrassing you with what would seem to be 'new' bylaws.
I'd do what was suggested by Rick: "If the management doesn't know about your bird, the best thing to do is nothing." Might be just the requisite annual flier in the mailbox. IIRC, if there is a real complaint about your conure, they are required to specifically send you a letter telling you so, not put a generalized "note" in your mailbox.
If you are really so concerned, contact an attorney. Most will consult with you over the phone for nothing, at least here in the U.S. Canada mileage may vary Emotion: smile Good luck!
Jill
Is that a new law that wasn't in place when ... not a lawyer so can't help you with that. Becky

I have a real problem with owning my dwelling and having someone else, bylaws or not, telling me I can or cannot have a pet. That's like saying I can't paint my house purple if I so choose. Hell, I bought the place.

This isn't the case with condos. Condo associations can place restrictions on what one can do with their own property, including whether one can keep pets in it, or paint it purple. Or paint it at all.
It really is a silly concept. If I wanted to deal with this kind of nonsense I'd just assume rent an apartment.

Rick
I have a real problem with owning my dwelling and ... purple if I so choose. Hell, I bought the place.

This isn't the case with condos. Condo associations can place restrictions on what one can do with their own property, ... a silly concept. If I wanted to deal with this kind of nonsense I'd just assume rent an apartment. Rick

BUT, the bylaws should state that on the front end and not be presented as a "oh, here you go" flier in the mailbox.
My parents live on an island which has an association... the rules to build were, keep it natural wood, shades of brown, green... no purple houses... until the really rich folks started moving in and building pink stucco mansions. Then suddenly the rules went out the window. Funny how that happens.
Jill
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