Next week, the Appropriations Committee of the California legislature will consider springing a bill which will require a permit and hefty fee from local Animal Control to sell an unneutered dog or cat. Would you cast an eye over its provisions?
www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset2text.htm
http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset2text.htm Are there hidden consequences here?
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http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset2text.htm

that leads to a search screen, not a specific bill. got a bill number or some way to look it up?

shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
Sor-ree, Shelly.
Let's try:
www.assembly.ca.gov
click on 'Legislation', then enter '2513'.
There's something being overlooked in this, but I'm not sure what.
Next week, the Appropriations Committee of the California legislature will consider springing a bill which will require a permit and ... an unneutered dog or cat. Would you cast an eye over its provisions? www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset2text.htm http://www.assembly.ca.gov/acs/acsframeset2text.htm Are there hidden consequences here?

The puppy millers are probably lining up to support it. Get's rid of competition from those pesky in-state responsible breeders who might actually want to gasp* sell a puppy to someone who wants to *gasp actually SHOW THE DOG.
If the ultimate goal is the eliminate dogs and cats, which is definetly the goal for some, then getting rid of people who are breeding regardless of how much care they use is a good start.
The eight week thing is fine for applying to pet shops, but it isn't right or reasonable to apply it across the board. I got Tsuki what I would say is too early to sell a puppy, six weeks, but seven weeks has long been recognized as ideal, and even six weeks is not bad IF the person has a clue about socialization and the means to do so.

I'm not sure how the section on "selling" will be applied. This is JUST and example. I'm at an
agility event in a public park. I'm talking with a breeder about her litter that I viewed last week. I say I'd like to by "the pink boy". The breeder and I talk and I promise to show the dog in conformation (thus requiring it to remain intact), do the health testing, report back results, show in some performance venue .. The breeder decides I'm a responsible pet owner and agrees to sell the dog for the price stated. At that point according to contract law there is very likely an enforceable sales contract even if there is no writing. Should this really be illegal?
Similarly if we come to agreement and the puppies are only four weeks old but I'm not taking custody until it is ten weeks old we have violated the letter of the law as written. That's ridiculous.
Sales permit of $250 per year? That's a really good way to get rid of people who pay attention to rules and ethics and laws in breeding. It will be worthless for dealing with those who don't pay attention.

Look this legislation couldn't be worse for the health and welfare of dogs and cats. Stopping all the repsonsible breeders means that people who don't know better won't have them to go to. So when they are seeking an intact dog or cat they will simply get on the internet and order a puppy from a puppy mill and then they will have it and no mentor to assist and guide them,.

Diane Blackman
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Sor-ree, Shelly. Let's try: www.assembly.ca.gov click on 'Legislation', then enter '2513'. There's something being overlooked in this, but I'm not sure what.

There's quite a lot overlooked in it. First, the transfer fees are a minimum. Second, every local jurisdiction (essentially counties) must enact new legislation and set up recording and enforcement provisions. Third, you'll note the provisions for definition of commercial breeders. Fourth, it applies to rescues without 501 (c) (3) status as well as breeders. Fifth, it applies to cats as well as dogs. Sixth, the intention is to simply decrease the population of companion animals without homes but it is another ill-informed effort aimed at people other than those who are responsibile for the problem (see history of similar legislation in San Mateo County).

There has been a major groundswell to make sure it isn't passed that started with rescue groups, spread to animal welfare PACs, and has now hit the breed and kennel clubs. I think it will go down in flames.

On a more positive note, there was a hearing last Wed. by the CA state insurance commission on a proposed bill that will prohibit breed bans on homeowner's insurance policies.
Lynn K.