I'm beginning to worry that Maui will never be trained completely. I am constantly trying to reinforce his skills and obedience but he still doesn't always listen. I am looking into getting some training assistance (in addition to a second class), such as an ecollar but not as drastic. I found this audible only collar and was wondering if these work at all to help proof the commands and his listening. Any input appreciated.

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If that doesn't work, do I need to consider this? I would hate to resort to this but I would also hate to have a dog who is unreliable forever.

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I'm beginning to worry that Maui will never be trained completely.

What is that cute little fellow up to?
Just wondering what particular things you're having trouble with.

Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico
I'm beginning to worry that Maui will never be trained completely.

What is that cute little fellow up to? Just wondering what particular things you're having trouble with.[/nq]Well, I will start on a positive note, his outside recall is really working well! However, his inside manners aren't what they use to be. He won't leave the garbage cans alone in any room (something I thought he outgrew) and the other day, he got up onto the table when I ran to chase my nephew (which he hasn't done in a long time as well). As for obedience stuff, he is ignoring the stay command at least half of the time, particularily when he has something I want to take away from him (like my nephews' toys he shouldn't be chewing on).

I try trading him for something else (which is usually when he stays) but I don't always have something around at the second to trade him so he will run off like it is a game of chase. For the come command, he's at about 90% inside but it used to be higher too. He is still not working through distractions that well and I would love to improve on that.
Catherine & Zoe the cockerchow & Queenie the black gold retriever & Rosalie the calico

On an unrelated topic, my brother brought a new puppy here yesterday after he picked it up. It is so cute, it's black with a little bit of white on one paw and around its neck (kinda looks like a collar). It's a Scotty mix (he thinks part poodle too but isn't sure). His friend's neighbor was giving them away for free due to it being an "accidental" breeding (it's 10 weeks old). Anyway, it really looks like it should be named Zoe so I have been trying to convince them to use that name. They want to name it Molly but this little ball of fire is too fiesty to be Molly.
Well, I will start on a positive note, his outside recall is reallyworking well! However, his inside manners aren't what they use to be.

How old is he?
What you're describing sounds to me like teenager.

~~Judy
he's almost 16 months old.
What is that cute little fellow up to? Just wondering what particular things you're having trouble with.

Well, I will start on a positive note, his outside recall is really working well! However, his inside manners aren't ... be higher too. He is still not working through distractions that well and I would love to improve on that.

I agree with Judy, and I think I recall that he is about a year old? Maybe a bit of late adolescence? Maybe he thinks he's running the house now? I find that from time to time, Zoe and I have to go back to first principles and certainly, when behavior backslides, that's a good time to start over and practice a lot. Like those stays sounds like you might want to practice them at low-stimulation times so that he's reminded of what you want.
I also wouldn't hesitate to take something away from him without trading right away you don't have to have something in hand, you can just take whatever he's chewing on and then go looking for the replacement.
On an unrelated topic, my brother brought a new puppy here yesterday after he picked it up. It is so ... that name. They want to name it Molly but this little ball of fire is too fiesty to be Molly.

We will be needing peectures.
Zoe's pretty trendy and I might have avoided it if I knew that in advance. In my little corner of the world there's my Zoe (the REAL Zoe) and then a whole bunch of Zoes who don't look like Zoes at all, including Zoe the beagle and Zoe the boxer. Tiny Zoe, who is a blonde cockerpoo, looks exactly like my Zoe only tiny and blonde. Therefore I believe she is named correctly. She's also a little spitfire.
I recommend Chloe, which is what I wanted to name Zoe, but someone in my book group has a daughter named Chloe, so I thought that wouldn't be right.
Anyway, enjoy the new puppy in the family!

Catherine
& Zoe the cockerchow
& Queenie the black gold retriever
& Rosalie the calico
he's almost 16 months old.

That's a little older than I would expect the teenage stuff to hit but it's still a thought.
I would have expected that around 9 months old, maybe ten, that he would start acting like the dog equivalent of a teenager. Testing boundaries, checking not only on what the rules are but on how exactly you are going to insist on compliance. Looking for loopholes and exceptions to rules.

It's pretty common and would normally last for a month or two, maybe a little more. I don't know when the brains shipments show up for poodles. Spenser (schnauzer) got his in installments - some around a year old and additional shipments would arrive every six months or so. I think the last upgrade was sometime in late July and at four years old, this may complete the set.
But if it is the teenage thing, the answer is complete consistency and insistance on compliance. Sometimes it seems like they have completely forgotten things that you KNOW they knew last month. It's almost like starting with a puppy - except the learning curve is much faster. You're reminding, not teaching from scratch.
At least that's one guess.
~~Judy
Max is the opposite - a complete gentlemen while indoors with perfect recall and come. No indoor destruction what so ever (as I knock on wood). Just sleeps in his chair.
Now - outside - a 180. 50% come - no recall and a complete menious to all those non-human around him.
Imagine that.
I'm beginning to worry that Maui will never be trained completely. I am constantly trying to reinforce his skills and ... collar and was wondering if these work at all to help proof the commands and his listening. Any input appreciated.

http://www.petsmart.com/global/product detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd id=845524441780735&ASSORTMENT%3C%3East id=2534374302023689&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder id=2534374302032915&bmUID=1130263559495
If that doesn't work, do I need to consider this? I would hate to resortto this but I would also hate to have a dog who is unreliable forever.

http://stores.channeladvisor.com/kc-kaylas-petsupplies/items/item.aspx?itemid=3524769
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