Been really struggling with this one. I know this is a long post, but I thought it would be good to be thorough and provide all the details.

It started over 4 months ago when my 3 year old male (nuetered) had a urinary problem, and a prescription diet (Science Diet WD) was started to treat it. I introduced the diet gradually over about a week, but he got diarrhea from the new food. I let him go on this diet (probably for too long), maybe 3 weeks or so (he was using the crawl space under house instead of his box so I didn't monitor him). I then gradually switched him back to his regular food which had previously never gave him the runs. This did nothing to help (I had him on the regular food about 3 weeks).

So I took him to the vet:
Vet visit 1


fecal worm check (negative)
fecal cytology (negative)
fecal direct-protozoa exam (negative)
and put on Metronidazole
No improvement in condition
Vet phone consultation


Put him on Science Diet ID to help with diarrhea problem and to continue to address urinary problem.
Another round of Metronidazole
Sulfasalazine pills were now introduced
No improvement in condition
Vet visit 2


fecal direct-protozoa exam (negative)
fecal cytology (negative)
Yet nother round of Metronidazole
and another round of Sulfasalazine
Switched to special diet IVD duck and green peas (yes, duck and peas predominantly. The thought is to put him on a very different diet, assuming the problem is a food alergy). No gradual introduction here because he has diarrhea anyway.
No improvement in condition
Vet phone consultation


Cat hated the duck so switched him to IVD rabbit and peas and he eats this.

After a few weeks on rabbit and peas dry food, there was a period of a week or 2 where there was some occasional signs of hardening of ***. This period of improvement proved temporary. Now it's back to pretty much cow pie or slightly thicker (nothing well formed).
I also tried giving him some yoghurt, but I have to give him a very small quantity (like 1/2 teaspoon or less) or he'll puke (he's very sensitive to most anything other than his regular diet). Yoghurt didn't seem to help, but I only did this for about a week and a half. I never feed him treats or anything other than his regular food.
I was starting to get encouraged when he was showing signs of improvement, but the improvement kind of stopped. I hate giving him all those pills (he's been off them for a good while now), they did nothing, and now the vet wants to explore more serious things like a disease of the intestines, or cancer, but I really doubt these things as his attitude is normal (plays, is happy, and has normal energy, drinks plenty of watr, though he's not happy about his sore butt from the diarrhea). These tests the vet wants to do are also very expensive and surgery is necessary for one of them (big bucks there).

This whole thing started with the diet change. Diarrhea was never a problem before the diet change. Maybe it's a food alergy, I don't know.

In other threads, someone had mentioned a cooked rice diet, another mentioned acidophilus in powder form. I really need to do something, and I'd like to try something before going back to the vet. My gut feeling is that there is nothing seriously wrong like a disease or cancer.

Anyone have any ideas?
(if you read this whole thing, thank you very much!) Hank
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snipGET A NEW VETERINARIAN! In the meantime, did anyone try dry food? What about fur ball accumulations in intestines? How about tap water with too much chlorine in it?

~~Philip
"Never let school interfere
with your education - Mark Twain"
(if you read this whole thing, thank you very much!) Hank

GET A NEW VETERINARIAN! In the meantime, did anyone try dry food? What about fur ball accumulations in intestines? How about tap water with too much chlorine in it?[/nq]Philip, I'm afraid another vet isn't always the answer. In cases of tough diarrhea problems (and I speak from experience) the only way to rule out or diagnose properly is with the costly tests and biopsies. I do agree food is an issue but dry food definitely isn't the solution. I think back to my cats problems and wonder now if the addition of fiber was the primary cause? My RB cat Marley had megacolon and he was switched to a high fiber diet and I added canned pumpkin to regular canned food when he wouldn't eat the WD.

Shadow also ate these foods because other than separating them, it is impossible to keep one out of the others food and at the time it seemed harmless to let Shadow eat all that fiber, too. Looking back I wouldn't be surprised if that was the start of his IBD.

Good thought about the water.
Been really struggling with this one. I know this is a long post, but I thought it would be good ... a disease or cancer. Anyone have any ideas? (if you read this whole thing, thank you very much!) Hank

Quite a puzzle> I assume you do not give him milk which some cats cannot tolerate. Do you give him filtered water?. Some people are bothered by the chemicals used to purify water so he may be too. Can he tolerate people tuna (canned) or sardines? Medications can cause the "dire" (do you use vaseline on sore butt?) It could be one of the preservatives in the cat food. Guess it is a case of trial and error. I expect it might take three days on any change to be effective. Best of luck.
I give him filtered water using a high quality system that filters out 99% of chlorine. I've been giving him this since before his diarrhea. Also, he has been on dry food the whole time.
Hank
I give him filtered water using a high quality system that filters out 99% of chlorine. I've been giving him this since before his diarrhea. Also, he has been on dry food the whole time. Hank

Maybe he needs to be on wet food. Will he eat chicken? Maybe a bland diet of boiled pureed chicken and rice will help clear it up, then you can find a good canned catfood. Ground up chicken and rice is often advised for a few days to help clear up diarrhea.
Karen
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I give him filtered water using a high quality system ... he has been on dry food the whole time. Hank

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Maybe he needs to be on wet food. Will he eat chicken? Maybe a bland diet of boiled pureed chicken ... canned catfood. Ground up chicken and rice is often advised for a few days to help clear up diarrhea. Karen
Also, if it's a new thing, fasting for 24 hours is often recommended to clear the system of anything it can't handle before going to a bland diet short term.
So your cat didn't have a problem until you started feeding him the urinary formula of Science Diet? Interesting. Maybe he is allergic to something in the Hill's foods, I don't know. If it were my cat, I would take him to a holistic vet, since you've already tried 2 allopathic vets with no success. If you live in the US, they have a state by state listing at www.altvetmed.com. There is also a very helpful group at /

Good luck and I hope your kitty gets well soon. Four months of diarrhea can't be fun (for you or him).
Lauren

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So your cat didn't have a problem until you started feeding him the urinary formula of Science Diet

That's the weird thing here, Lauren. Hill Prescription WD isn't for urinary problems, it is high fiber.
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