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Orson was on a 7-day hold (maybe it was 5 I can't remember) before we adopted him. Even after we brought ... law on my side, but not my own morals. It would've broken my heart, but I'd have given him back.

yep. or, at the very least, i'd be willing to discuss it with them. OTOH i had to wrestle with a similar problem when elliott's owner showed up, a month after i'd found elliott, and admitted that he'd known all along that i had his dog. um, *no*. i did discuss it with the guy, but if he hadn't given in, i can't say i would've handed elliott over to him.
(This does not, however, negate my course to Malebolge, or whatever circle of hell I qualified for by cheating on the quiz.)

naturellement!

shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
Something else to take into account when weighing pros & ... both the public & animal control, as a street walker/stray.

absolutely, which is why i'm still waffling. my dogs don't bolt (and are good about "wait"ing), but they *do* tend to lose their branes when they see critters.

Have you considered the breakaway collars? I have the fear that my new dog may bolt out of the door if we are not really careful (he hasn't fully learned his manners) and I also do not like leaving collars on them when they are out playing so I am ordering these collars and will use regular collars for walks etc.
Therefore it may be more prone to someone taking the dog in and never reporting it to the authorities.

yes, but after hearing people who ought to know better support keeping loose dogs (both here and IRL), i'm pretty pessimistic about the chances of someone finding my dog and returning it, whether it's got ID or not. so, i'm still waffling.

I live in an area where most ppl have dogs and a lot of them are left out during the day in 4 ft. cyclone fences (old military town) and I can't imagine keeping loose dogs. I have had over a dozen escapees here in the last year and I make the calls to owners ask about shot status and keep them until the owners can get here. There is nothing unusual about dogs at large here and I have only called AC once about a Chow mix that would not come to me and jumps fences like they are not even there.
A loose dog does not mean an uncared for dog, don't these ppl consider how they would feel if someone kept their pet?
Michelle
How could they tell me,
`You don't own this dog?' '' Humane Society officials say they understand Karanastasis' anguish, but their hands are tied. ``This ... Benninger, president of the Humane Society. ``But we're following state law here. After five days, the Humane Society becomes owner.''

Okay, either dogs are property or they aren't.
If I lose my wallet, even the money in it doesn't become police property five days later.
I agree, the dog is a little more perishable a product than cash in my wallet. And I'm really glad that they were able to place the dog and that she was going to what we assume is a great new home.

But they didn't have the dog yet. She was still at the shelter. At the very least, they could treat the owner as an adopter with priority rights and let her pay the same fees to the shelter that the new adopters were.

How could this new family feel good about what has happened? Don't they realize they could be in the same situation?
~~Judy
Have you considered the breakaway collars? I have the fear that my new dog may bolt out of the door ... them when they are out playing so I am ordering these collars and will use regular collars for walks etc.

I have considered these
collars, until I heard from several persons in my Agility Club that they work too good, ie they don't stay on.
Gwen
yep. or, at the very least, i'd be willing to discuss it with them. OTOH i had to wrestle with ... it with the guy, but if he hadn't given in, i can't say i would've handed elliott over to him.

Yeah, after I posted on this I realized I hadn't qualified it with a time limit. On that I'm not sure. But a month might be excessive for someone to expect the dog back especially if it was legally adopted.

I know I've said this here before, but a few months after we got Orson a neighbor, living in self-created squalor, claimed it was her dog, Onyx, that she'd surrendered to the SPCA. She seemed happy to see him. The times didn't match up, so it wasn't the right dog, but it creeped me out no end that someone would say 'Hey! I know that dog! I didn't think he was worth keeping. Just thought I'd let you know. Cheerio!'
Cate
Something else to take into account when weighing pros & cons is that ifthe dog likes to bolt out open ... walker/stray. Therefore it may be more prone to someone taking the dog in and never reporting it to the authorities.

That's certainly the case around here. An obviously purebred dog would make for second thoughts but someone finding a lost dog would look for a collar. And a collar has the advantage of being visible from a distance - across a yard. If there's no collar, they assume stray, not lost.

I've never had a problem with a collar. And that includes with hunting dogs working in all the hazards of the field. And there's someone home with the dogs most of the time, so I don't have to weigh that possibility as heavily as someone who is gone more. If they were being shown, I'd also have to consider damage to the coat from a collar. Since they aren't, I'm opting for doing everything I can possibly do.
Which is why my dogs have collars with ID tags, microchips and tattoos. If someone doesn't return them to me, it's obviously intentional on their part.

~~Judy
but it creeped me out no end that someone would say 'Hey! I know that dog! I didn't think he was worth keeping. Just thought I'd let you know. Cheerio!' Cate

That is quite creepy. And I can't imagine someone not wanting to keep lovely Orson.
Gwen
Not necessarily.
Signed,
No one you know.
Yeah, after I posted on this I realized I hadn't qualified it with a time limit. On that I'm not sure. But a month might be excessive for someone to expect the dog back

yeah. at some point, even if there are seriously extenuating circumstances, i think it's probably best to leave things as they are.
especially if it was legally adopted.

i never turned elliott in to the shelter (and i'm not sure i would if i had it to do over again today), but i did* file a report with them, along with two photos, put an ad in the paper, put up flyers over a pretty large area, and notified *every vet in town. i did everything i could to find his owner, barring actually taking him to the shelter. i'm not sure it's worth the risk of disease exposure to a pup to do that, though, especially if the finder is willing to keep the dog and does everything reasonable to find the owners.
but it creeped me out no end that someone would say 'Hey! I know that dog! I didn't think he was worth keeping. Just thought I'd let you know. Cheerio!'

heh. when you put it that way, it *is* pretty weird. if i'd given up a dog, i don't think i'd wander around telling the "new owners" about it. that's pretty clearly a "need to know basis" sort of thing, and you didn't need to know. people are strange.

shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
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