I've decided that I might purchase a Mars Coat King for Solo's "Lassie " problem. Not that I don't love his poofy butt, but I know from experience that the Coat King thins it out enough so it doesn't become a tangled smelly mess (his butt is REALLY fuzzy) without making it look very different. A friend of mine groomed him before for me and he looked great except that she also thinned out his magnificent, banner-like tail, which made me kind of sad. (It grew back though.)

In the catalogs I see various versions of things that seem to be comparable to or knock-offs of the Mars tool. There are the Mat King, which appears extremely similar except for being white plastic, and the Oster rake, which appears extremely similar except for being stainless steel. Both are cheaper than the Mars Coat King.
There are also rakes intended for breaking up mats that look like they fulfill a similar function, but they have long scary blades and look more limited in use.
Is the Mars Coat King that much better that I should spend $30 on it, or will the $15 Mat King suffice? I'll only be using it occasionally on Solo's ***.

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There are also rakes intended for breaking up mats that look like they

fulfill a similar function, but they have long scary blades and look more limited in use.

A groomer friend of mine uses one like this, and swears by it. But, her caveat is that it is much more difficult (and potentially dangerous) to use on the dog. Especially if you plan on using it on the britches/butt area, since many dogs are more wiggly/ sensitive about being groomed there.
Is the Mars Coat King that much better that I should spend $30 on it, or will the $15 Mat King suffice? I'll only be using it occasionally on Solo's ***.

Since the Oster one is fairly new, I'd be curious to see how long the blades will last. Honestly, I love my Mars King, and after talking with several people, I'd stick with it. Most of them have never had to replace the blades, even after several years of using it on a regular basis (pro handlers/groomers).
Shelly & The Boys
Is the Mars Coat King that much better that I should spend $30 on it, or will the $15 Mat King suffice?

I know nothing about the Mat King. I bought the truly wonderful Mars Coat King for Rocky. I'd like something wider than the one I have but it was the only medium spaced one (tooth-wise) that was available.
It came Toni recommended.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
I know nothing about the Mat King. I bought the truly wonderful Mars Coat King for Rocky. I'd like something wider than the one I have but it was the only medium spaced one (tooth-wise) that was available.
Thanks to you and Shelly for the advice. I may try the Oster version (not the Mat King another knockoff that's entirely stainless steel) because it's $10 cheaper and I'm a sucker for chrome. Whenever I look at appliances, I always like the one that comes in all-silver.

Which blade do you recommend? 10? 12?Solo has a teflon coat that stands out from his body, more in some places than others. He has lots of cowlicks and this unfortunate "feathering" where his fur kind of flips out over his ribs, so that many folks think he weighs more than he does. I've been told to take weight off him several times although anyone who puts hands on him can feel ribs without pressing but of course most people can't just walk up and put hands on him.

I'm wondering if a Coat King could thin the coat here a bit (not now, but after the winter). Just kind of sick of people telling me my dog is fat and laughing when I say he's just fluffy. Honestly, he's just fluffy! When I got him he was anorexic and weighed 44 pounds; he's now fit and weighs 48, at nearly 23" tall.

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Thanks to you and Shelly for the advice. I may try the Oster version (not the Mat King another ... and I'm a sucker for chrome. Whenever I look at appliances, I always like the one that comes in all-silver.

Me too...I bought a brand new Oster blender that is retro-chrome style (sort of like a beehive) a few years ago just because I loved the way it looked & my Cuisinart one was a POS. :-)
Which blade do you recommend? 10? 12?

I have the 10 in the Mars. I think I probably should have gotten the 12, however.
The 10 works just fine for Coda (from the sounds of it, he's got fur sort of like Solo's), but would like something a little more for Bodhi's britches.
Shelly & The Boys
after the winter). Just kind of sick of people telling me my dog is fat and laughing when I say he's just fluffy.

You should tell those people to come on up and feel his ribs
Honestly, he's just fluffy!

Very. And I saw him after he had been trimmed a bit. With all that hair, and the way it sticks out, it is hard to see a waistline, but he's definitely not fat.
When I got him he was anorexic and weighed 44 pounds; he's now fit and weighs 48, at nearly 23" tall.

Solo's 23" at the withers? Heck, Khan's only 25" and weighs almost twice as much. He could probably drop a couple of pounds, although I don't know how I'd go about doing that.
Suja
I have the 10 in the Mars. I think I probably should have gotten the 12, however.
The 10 works just fine for Coda (from the sounds of it, he's got fur sort of like Solo's), but would like something a little more for Bodhi's britches.
It does seem like Solo and Coda have similar coats. When you say you'd like something "a little bit more" for Bodhi, what do you mean?

I'll probably only actually use this thing two or three times a year.

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Very. And I saw him after he had been trimmed a bit. With all that hair, and the way it sticks out, it is hard to see a waistline, but he's definitely not fat.
You should see him when he's all wet. He looks like a skinny little cute puppy. Even the fur on his legs is deceptive. He looks like he's got a lot of bone and for a working Border Collie he sort of does, but not nearly as much as you'd guess. It's not that the fur is so long, but it's fluffy like stuffed animal fur. It's weird. It isn't like he has so much coat in terms of sheer volume, but the texture has a lot of air in it.
Solo's 23" at the withers? Heck, Khan's only 25" and weighs almost twice as much. He could probably drop a couple of pounds, although I don't know how I'd go about doing that.
He's almost about 22.5 give or take (I don't have a wicket so it's hard to measure truly accurately but that's the average I ended up with). Solo looks shorter because of his posture I guess. He does put on weight fast if he gets less exercise than at least an hour and a half a day. He's an easy keeper and on kibble days gets 1.25 cups of food, plus whatever training treats he's gotten that day.

The people who tell me he's fat also tend to be the people who think I'm handling his issues "all wrong" and that a good whack in the head would fix him (i.e., anti-food people), so maybe they have ulterior motives.

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I may try the Oster version (not the Mat King another knockoff that's entirely stainless steel) because it's $10 cheaper and I'm a sucker for chrome. Whenever I look at appliances, I always like the one that comes in all-silver.

The Mars is stainless steel - by the number of times I've left it outside, I definitely recommend going for the stainless.
Which blade do you recommend? 10? 12?

The 12 works well on Rocky, who's coat is way thicker than Solo's. It does nothing on Friday (except his tail), who's coat is way thinner than Solo's.
In a perfect world, I'd have one rougher Coat King and one finer.
Solo has a teflon coat that stands out from his body, more in some places than others. He has lots ... can feel ribs without pressing but of course most people can't just walk up and put hands on him.

I know what you mean. With big coat and big Aussie hips, Rocky looks fat. At 24" and 52 pounds he's not, and if there's a body of water around I prove it to the gainsayers.
I'm wondering if a Coat King could thin the coat here a bit (not now, but after the winter). Just kind of sick of people telling me my dog is fat and laughing when I say he's just fluffy. Honestly, he's just fluffy!

A fluffy Border Collie?! Say it ain't so!
When I got him he was anorexic and weighed 44 pounds; he's now fit and weighs 48, at nearly 23" tall.

That sounds perfect to me. Many think that Friday is way too skinny at 21" and 40 pounds.
I can't tell you how many fat BCs I'm seeing. It's a damn shame. While I see many fat dogs, with Border Collies I can especially see the real dog trying to get out.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
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