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Nor does it equate to respect for the person or the person's advice. Respect is earned, not demanded as a matter of right.

I'm kind of curious how one goes about "not tolerating" being addressed with respect. Aside from plonking. But then, I'm one of those un-democratic freaks who thinks bad and stupid ideas should be ridiculed, not not NOT respected, no siree.

And i am one of those freaks who thinks that ridicule should have been left in junior high where it belongs.
I have an incredibly offensive coworker, whom is basically venomous and abusive. I have no idea what he has on ... he behaved nicely i spoke nicely back. He's stopped talking trash in my office and we actually have pleasant conversations.

My take on your analogy is this:
In the case of your coworker,you HAVE to engage him because none of us gets paid to have to like the people we work with. We get paid to do a job. If that means finding a way to deal with an ignoramous effectively to get the job done,it's simply what professionally behaving people do.

By contrast:
I'm not being paid to put up with it here and neither is anyone else. I'm actually the consumer,which gives me choices and the power to decide not to put up with it if I so choose.

For that you need Twinkies and lunch meat. Eternity through preservatives.

Terry Von Gease
But then, I'm one of those un-democratic freaks who thinks bad and stupid ideas should be ridiculed, not not NOT respected, no siree.

And i am one of those freaks who thinks that ridicule should have been left in junior high where it belongs.

I do not agree that ridicule only belongs in junior high.

Bad ideas should be held up to the light and ridiculed soundly.
We had somebody like that here for years but she
just ran away.
Clearly, ignoring mikey doesn't change the behavior. We have been trying that for years. I have occasionally tried to engage Mikey in real conversation, and occasionally it works.

Just curious, did you try anything with shelly and if so, was it successful?
Perhaps there is more than one way to skin a cat.

and maybe there are some cats who can't be caught, let alone skinned?
hmm?

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I have an incredibly offensive coworker, whom is basically venomous and abusive. I have no idea what he has on ... engage Mikey in real conversation, and occasionally it works. Perhaps there is more than one way to skin a cat.

To apply your co-worker method to Mikey and others, one should then do the usenet equivalent of yelling at him to get the hell out of the office when he is being negative and only have a conversation when he is behaving nicely. That sounds about right. Can you see why if you listened attentively to the trash talk or laughed along with him when he was trashing others that he might end up in your office every time he wanted to talk trash and might even spend extra time making up trash to share with you if he enjoyed his time in your office? This is why I say I have no problem with people telling Mikey he is an *** but I have a big problem with people engaging him rewardingly when he is being an ***.

Paula
"The smell of burning rubber chickens and
singed roller-skating chimps will teach a man to hate." swt