I'm cleaning cages while I'm stuck at home today. I just did the milksnake cage. I really love how perky and cute these guys act. I pull out the cage and there's no sign of snakes. I open it and start messing around in it, and suddenly a red and black head appears from the shavings, with a tiny tongue flicking. About five seconds later, another head appears in a different part of the cage. "What's she doing?" "Does it involve mice?" They've just got to check out everything I do. Even if I don't touch their cage, they will come out and press their little faces against the side if I'm working near them. Cracking the lid to check something is like ringing the dinner bell.

How did I manage to go so long without keeping snakes?

Jennifer
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suddenly a red and black head appears from the shavings, with a tiny tongue flicking. About five secondslater, another head appears in a different part of the cage. "What's she doing?" "Does it involve mice?"

That is too adorable! I was JUST looking around to see how many little eyes were on me in the herp room... lots of perky faces in aspen shavings. Emotion: smile
Excellent anthropomorphizing, I give that an EIGHT!! Emotion: big smile
How did I manage to go so long without keeping snakes? Jennifer

I don't know how you did it... and I've wondered the same thing several times in the last couple of years. Emotion: smile
fr0glet
How did I manage to go so long without keeping snakes? Jennifer

I don't know how you did it... and I've wondered the same thing several times in the last couple of years. Emotion: smile

This is an honest question, with no disrespect intended, but do you ladies have kids? It is possible that these critters are surrogates?

I take great pleasure in keeping my mantids, and am wondering the same question about myself - An am seeing the thoughts of others.

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I don't know how you did it... and I've wondered the same thing several times in the last couple of years. Emotion: smile

This is an honest question, with no disrespect intended, but do you ladies have kids? It is possible that ... in keeping my mantids, and am wondering the same question about myself - An am seeing the thoughts of others.

Neither of us has kids. I can't speak for fr0glet, but I definitely don't consider my herps as children. The cats maybe, but not the lizards and snakes. As for human kids, I'm not too fond of them and don't understand them.
I take pleasure in keeping herps, but I also get similar pleasure in cooking, gardening, etc. Anything that gives me the feeling of creating and accomplishment. My milksnakes are beautiful to look at, but so is the cherry tree blooming in my backyard.
Jennifer
This is an honest question, with no disrespect intended, but do >you ladies have kids? It is possible that these critters are surrogates?

I think that when people keep animals as child substitutes the animals tend to be of the furry (dogs or cats or both) or feathered (parrots) variety

I've heard it said that keeping a parrot is like having the equivalent of a two year old child for up to 90 years
This is an honest question, with no disrespect intended, but do >you snipped

I've heard it said that keeping a parrot is like having the equivalent of a two year old child for up to 90 years

I can testify to that. All I have heard from my Yellow Nape Amazon, Darwin, all day long is his repeated version of "Old McDonald" and "Want some fried chicken!!??" (which he screams and says with a southern accent...he does it when he wants his food bowl refilled, which he then promptly dumps on the floor).
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This is an honest question, with no disrespect intended, but do you ladies have kids? It is possible that these critters are surrogates?

AFAIK, neither Jenn nor myself is planning to bear ANY human children.

Rescue (which Jenn got me into and continues to trailblaze the road forward in) is not like parenting... and sick/unwanted reptiles are not like children.
I would say I take the most pleasure out of how indifferent the reptiles are, how I genuinely believe they do NOT appreciate me giving them injections, cleaning their wounds, shooting medicine down their throats, poking ointment into their eyeballs, looking around their vent... heh. That's my favorite part. Emotion: smile
Neither of us has kids. I can't speak for fr0glet, but I definitely don't consider my herps as children. The cats maybe, but not the lizards and snakes.

Agreed. The cats are more like housemates around here... they control things, we control things, etc. One of the cats is having an affair with my husband AND the dog, if she were a kid she certainly wouldn't be doing that.
As for human kids, I'm not too fond of them and don't understandthem.

Myself, I'm quite fond of other people's children... in small doses. I don't know how to discipline, but I can reason with most children. I just talk to them like they were a really gullible adult. I also love snuggling; puppies, kittens, and children are typically very good at it... and I enjoy simple pursuits with children, like seeking 4-leaf clovers or making jokes about why the sky isn't green and the grass isn't blue... or letting them explore my reptiles. Emotion: smile

I worked in schools for 6 years, I honestly thought I was going to be an English teacher. Good thing I set myself straight along the way!
I take pleasure in keeping herps, but I also get similar pleasure in cooking, gardening, etc. Anything that gives me the feeling of creating and accomplishment. My milksnakes are beautiful to lookat, but so is the cherry tree blooming in my backyard.

I love that gardening is now on your happy list... hooray for homeownership! Emotion: big smile
fr0glet
AFAIK, neither Jenn nor myself is planning to bear ANY human children.

Nope, not planning on having any. So far, so good!
I would say I take the most pleasure out of how indifferent the reptiles are, how I genuinely believe they ... shooting medicine down their throats, poking ointment into their eyeballs, looking around their vent... heh. That's my favorite part. Emotion: smile

Hehe. :-P
Agreed. The cats are more like housemates around here... they control things, we control things, etc. One of the cats is having an affair with my husband AND the dog, if she were a kid she certainly wouldn't be doing that.

Our cats are more like kids. The whine, squabble, beg, and compete for our attention. Lately Fluffy sits in the window when I'm outside and meows pathetically to be let out. But I don't trust any of them to be responsible and stay in the yard.
I worked in schools for 6 years, I honestly thought I was going to be an English teacher. Good thing I set myself straight along the way!

lol Man, you couldn't pay me enough to work in a school nowadays, when you can't discipline the kids and the parents don't keep them in line.
I love that gardening is now on your happy list... hooray for homeownership! Emotion: big smile

It seems totally wrong, that spending hours doing hard labor in the yard satisfies me. I spent three and a half hours yesterday. Mowed the lawn (bought a reel mower), dug as much of the bark mulch out of the lawn as I could (I'd like to get my hands on the *** who dumped piles of it all over the yard and killed the grass!!!), and did some weeding. Today I spent another three hours and weeded, fertilized and watered. Dammit, that lawn is going to look good if I have to fertilize it with blood!!

Hm. I think it helps that I'm avoiding going to work, too..

BTW, nice to see you're back! How did the Oregon trip go?

Jennifer
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Agreed. The cats are more like housemates around here... theycontrol ... if she were a kid she certainlywouldn't be doing that.

Our cats are more like kids. The whine, squabble, beg, and compete for our attention. Lately Fluffy sits in the window when I'moutside and meows pathetically to be let out. But I don't trust any of them to be responsible and stay in the yard.

Well I confess I refer to both of our male cats as my boyfriends. The mutual love relationships possible with cats are a part of my life I've never been without. In my entire life, I was only catless for about a month.
I worked in schools for 6 years, I honestly thought ... teacher. Good thing I set myself straight along the way!

lol Man, you couldn't pay me enough to work in a school nowadays, when you can't discipline the kids and the parents don't keep themin line.

Heheh. Yeah my problem was being too young. Students hitting on me, or we listened to the same music, worst of all my ex-boyfriend's son was in two of the classes I assisted in. Small town syndrome. Half the kids were younger siblings of my partying friends!

And of course, the general low-pay high-stress frustrating environment of public school.
Hm. I think it helps that I'm avoiding going to work, too..

HAH! You and me both!
BTW, nice to see you're back! How did the Oregon trip go?

Fast and furious. Partied with my best friend and shared with her how to take her 6mo pit bull's temperature Friday night, zoomed to Newport Sat morn, enjoyed the Rogue brewery (beer mecca) thoroughly, went to a luau all afternoon (I learned to roll sushi!!), was introduced to a darling and unique Russian tortoise, headed down to Beverly Beach just for the sunset and a clear beautiful night with a slivery moon and driftwood campfires (plus more Rogue beer), had home-cooked chorizo y juevos for breakfast, and flew back the 8 hour trip today, plus 2 hours in 5pm traffic over BRIDGE MAINTENTANCE down by Vader, WA.

Tortoise (her name is Star, and she's VERY pale) is now living in a spacious 40-gallon terrarium, exploring and seeming quite healthy, and will be up for adoption VERY soon! Emotion: big smile
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