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The guy is in Quebec, so that suggests the shipping might be high. Also he is offering no refund even for DOA.

I didn't notice that.
Leah, if you can't afford a string trimmer, you can't afford a bottle of Roundup and the moral repercussions that attend its use.

There is truth to the above. Roundup isn't cheap, .00 for a fairly small bottle that won't go far at all.
I don't like using stuff like Roundup and avoid it.

Get out
there with a pair of gloves and a trowel, or bare hands and a flat rock, whatever your budget will allow. Charlie

That's the best way, but it can take a while. And it can be very hard work. I enjoy it at times. In the heat of the summer here it is nearly impossible
to do.
Still I prefer pulling as much as I can.
Gwen
What about your church members?

I'm very disillusioned with my church right now. They're big on global assistance and weak on individual assistance. I asked for financial help and never heard back from them, and I know several other people who got left hanging to dry. Wonderful sermons, great music, but the church as an entity can't see the trees for the forest.
I really, really hate asking for help - especially financial - and it took me a lot to go in there. All I asked for was money for meds, and only for a period of a few months.
I'm currently looking for a new church to tithe.
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Leah, if you can't afford a string trimmer, you can't afford a bottle of Roundup and the moral repercussions that attend its use.

There is truth to the above. Roundup isn't cheap, .00 for a fairly small bottle that won't go far at all.

Gosh,I use about 3 gallons a week from spring through fall. I hate poison ivy! And it really doesn't work well on the stuff.Works really good on grass though.
Leah, some general suggestions and one specific one!

Can you borrow a string trimmer from a neighbor? How about a student? How about... your mom!!
Keep an eye out for students who are in the landscaping or lawn care business. Offer to barter lessons and dog training for yard maintenance tasks (right now, pruning the bushes and weed whacking that blasted grass, which sure looks like a weed anywhere but the lawn!).

Lay down some thick cardboard (lots of free sources for this), even plastic if you can find some, over the stonescape. Weight it down with bricks if you can't get a hold of some heavy bark or chip mulch affordably. (Wal-Mart locally sells a cheap cypress mulch for about $2 a bag, does a good job in a thick layer. Just don't count on it for more than one growing season...) Cutting off the light will kill the grass (and any other plants) there, and you can leave it on until you have the time, funds, and energy to clean up and restore the stonescaping.

How are your shrubs separated from the lawn? How close to the shrubs does the grass grow? Look for a quickie solution to the grass (roundup works fine, in areas where your grass-eater isn't loose; use more free cardboard to shield the shrubs themselves and spray on a less windy day). Then back to mulch; it will need to be replaced/replenished in time and/or you'll need to pull weeds, but a thick enough layer will take care of the problem for a good while.
Can you lift or rock the railroad ties at all? Get some shingles (from those neighbors who are having their roofs redone, from a construction/repair site you drive past always ask to talk to the boss and get permission before taking stuff from a construction site) and lay them down partly under the ties. Leave a big part out on top of the lawn. Your lawn mower can drive right over these shingles (which will keep the grass from growing directly underneath them no light, no growth) and you can get that neatly-trimmed look without a string trimmer.
Roundup freely on the walkway and driveway. No desirable plants to kill accidentally, and most feel that it's safe (after a couple of hours) for pets to walk on. Assume you don't have gravel-lickers in your household, of course! Consider using Triox on this area; the name may have changed, it's meant to be a permanent plant killer. In reality, needs re-application every year or two. Follow all directions, don't put it within the drip line of any plants you want to keep. Since it is meant to go down into the soil and stay there, you put a sprinkler on the treated area, wash the Triox down into the soil where it's useful and hopefully leave the surface relatively clean of chemicals.

Only know that there is no spork.
There is truth to the above. Roundup isn't cheap, .00 for a fairly small bottle that won't go far at all.

Gosh,I use about 3 gallons a week from spring through fall. I hate poison ivy! And it really doesn't work well on the stuff.Works really good on grass though.

This link talks about poison ivy, oak and sumac.
http://search.netscape.com/ns/boomframe.jsp?query=natural+ways+to+kill+poison+ivy+and+oak&page=1&... url=redir%3Fsrc%3Dwebsearch%26requestId%3D8c2d2670f7e4b52f%26clickedItemRank%3D8%26userQuery%3Dnatural%2Bways%2Bto%2Bkill%2Bpoison%2Bivy%2Band%2Boak%26clickedItemURN%3Dhttp%253A%252F%252Fwww.racingsmarter.com%252Fpoison oak%252C ivy%252C %2526 sumac.htm%26invocationType%3D-%26fromPage%3DNSCPIndex2%26amp%3BampTest%3D1&remove url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.racingsmarter.com%2Fpoison oak%2C ivy%2C %2526 sumac.htm

It also says using concentrated chlorine bleach works well. I have heard that. I believe DH used it last year and it did work well.

Bleach is a lot cheaper than roundup, and not as hard on the enviroment, I don't think.
Gwen
Can you borrow a string trimmer from a neighbor? How about a student? How about... your mom!!

Neighbors, I don't recall seeing anybody using one. Guy on right mows and sprays weeds, lady on left hires service. Don't know anybody else. Students? Possible. Mom? Even if she was alive, it would cost a lot more to travel 1000 miles to borrow it than to buy one (plus she lived in an apartment :}.
Keep an eye out for students who are in the landscaping or lawn care business. Offer to barter lessons and dog training for yard maintenance

That is a really good idea!
How are your shrubs separated from the lawn? How close to the shrubs does the grass grow?

They are sitting enclosed by railroad ties that are too high for me to lift the mower up over them. The grass is growing all around them, inside the railroad tie enclosure.
Can you lift or rock the railroad ties at all?

No.
Roundup freely on the walkway and driveway.

I'm going to try this Eliminator stuff I got on the walkway. It's not that big an area (relative to all the other areas I need to do), and the small bottle I bought should take care of it.
As for the cat... hopefully he won't choose immediately after the application to come visit.
You (and others) have given a lot of great advice, but the labor-intensive stuff I'm not ready for. I've got other priorities for my energy right now. Later down the road, yea.
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I'm very disillusioned with my church right now. They're big on global assistance and weak on individual assistance. I asked ... go in there. All I asked for was money for meds, and only for a period of a few months.

Leah, if you can't afford your meds, please go to the nearest big hospital and talk to the social worker.

I MEAN IT.
And you don't need to post in here whether you were successful or not, or any details of your finances. Many, many people need help once in a while, and you shouldn't beat yourself up over this.
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Quoth (Email Removed) (Leah) on 10 Nov 2004 19:37:26 GMT,
Neighbors, I don't recall seeing anybody using one. Guy on right mows and sprays weeds, lady on left hires service. ... lot more to travel 1000 miles to borrow it than to buy one (plus she lived in an apartment :}.

Oh, sorry! I misremembered, thought your Mom was still alive and close enough for you to do some dog training for...
You (and others) have given a lot of great advice, but the labor-intensive stuff I'm not ready for. I've got other priorities for my energy right now. Later down the road, yea.

For now, consider the cover-it-up (solarize) option, especially for areas like the back where it won't look so odd to the rest of the neighborhood if you just weight the cardboard and/or plastic with rocks. That will keep those areas plant-free and out of your hair for quite a while, and you can deal with them later down the road...

Only know that there is no spork.
Gosh,I use about 3 gallons a week from spring through fall. I hate poison ivy! And it really doesn't work well on the stuff.Works really good on grass though.

I think you need triclopyr, "brush killer," for poison ivy.

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