This afternoon, I started training Muttley using the methods described by Jerry Howe. The first lesson is the "Hot And Cold" exercise, which teaches the dog to pay attention to his trainer. The objective is for him always to have one ear and one eye focused on me.
My first step was to put on his leash, and his "training collar", for which I am using a flat nylon limited choke. His new flat collar would also be OK, and probably preferable, except it came loose once, so I don't trust it. He was not too happy about having the collar slipped over his nose and ears. I may need to loosen it before putting it on and adjust it afterward. In any case, it is designed to be snug enough to prevent escape without actually "choking". It is to be used only for control, and not for "correction".As usual, I had him wait at the door until I opened it and stepped on the porch. He was too quick to run down the three steps to the grass, but this is still early in his training. Once I was on the front lawn, he assumed he was going for a walk, and started out in his preferred direction. However, I stopped him as he reached the end of the leash, and slightly reduced tension, until he sat and looked away.

If I started moving, he would get up and go. My objective was to make him pay attention to me. I called his name, with little response, but eventually I was able to move to the side and catch his eye, at which point I gave him praise and slackened the leash. However, he once again started moving along, to the end of the leash, where I stopped him again.The exercise is supposed to be conducted standing in one place, with the dog alternately moving away and returning. However, he was highly motivated to continue his expected walk, and would not respond when I called his name, except eventually to sit and stare ahead. I tried not to call him to "come", as this was intended to get him to pay attention, rather than respond to a command. I was able to get him to look at me, which I rewarded with praise, and he seemed to be "getting it".

But he is a hardheaded mutt and after five or ten minutes I took him for his walk. However, he seemed better about pulling, and several times I stopped and waited for him to look at me before continuing. It was sometimes a war of wills as he just sat there looking at the trees or anywhere but me, but with a bit of coaxing he would give me a glance, whereupon I praised and continued the walk.
On the way back, he was better than usual about walking with a loose leash, and actually assumed a decent heel position, for which he was rewarded with praise. Back at the house, I told him to go inside, and he did so willingly. It was wicked hot and humid, so both of us were happy to get inside where it was cooler. I had him sit and wait while I removed his collar and leash, and then rewarded him with a rawhide chewy. Of course, I ask him to sit first, unless he beats me to it. He knows that's what he should do. "Good Boy!"
I'm taking these exercises slowly. I called Jerry, and he wanted me to proceed quickly to the "Family Pack" exercises and instilling the "come" reflexive conditioned command. That will come later. I think Muttley needs a much more solid groundwork of automatically paying attention. I had suspected this before, but didn't know how to do it.

This was definitely lacking in Janet's class. I was immediately barking commands and applying corrections to enforce sits and stays, and I never had any control when I was yanking on his choker attempting to force a "heel", while he was clawing his way left and right to check out new smells and other distractions. I would have had to lift him up by the chain and stare him in the eye to get his attention. And that just isn't going to happen with a 75 pound high drive dog that doesn't even seem to mind being handled that way, although I'm sure he was annoyed, and thinking of ways to "fix" this mistreatment, by attacking somebody in the class, which was the only place this occurred.
The last paragraph is just my own observation, and I have tried to describe my actual experiences with this first step to training, using gentle and consistent methods that will probably work. I invite Jerry to add his critique and suggestions, and anyone else who cares to comment. Or you may choose to killfile me. I don't care. This is my forum for reporting my experiences and fine tuning Muttley's training to be as effective as possible.
Paul and Muttley
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The exercise is supposed to be conducted standing in one place, with the dog alternately moving away and returning. However, he was highly motivated to continue his expected walk,

Who was it that wagered he wouldn't follow Jerry's Methods either? We have your winnings waiting for you at the main desk.
This was definitely lacking in Janet's class. I was immediately barking commands and applying corrections to enforce sits and stays, ... thinking of ways to "fix" this mistreatment, by attacking somebody in the class, which was the only place this occurred.

You really are an ***, you know that? Everyone here knows it. Why you continue to berate the free in person assistance you received on a newsgroup of people who I don't believe care to hear anything else from you, I do not know. It is an open group though, and you are free to continue making an *** of yourself if you so desire.

Nick
As usual, I had him wait at the door until I opened it and stepped on the porch. He was too quick to run down the three steps to the grass, but this is still early in his training.

Important point to note, you hadn't actually started his training yet.

Also, why are you focussed on having him not go down the stairs before you??
Once I was on the front lawn, he assumed he was going for a walk, and started out in his preferred direction.

One option you might try is to take him for a long walk/run, drain some of his physical energy and then try training him.
However, I stopped him as he reached the end of the leash, and slightly reduced tension, until he sat and ... the leash. However, he once again started moving along, to the end of the leash, where I stopped him again.

Are you trying toi get him to loose-leash walk or pay attention to you. They are two different objectives that are only a little bit related. If Mutley isn't paying attention to you, getting him to loose-leash walk will be more difficult. Trying to get him to do it while walking is only going to greatly decrease your chances of success. Get him paying attention to you reliably, and then move on to walking.
The exercise is supposed to be conducted standing in one place, with the dog alternately moving away and returning. However, ... me, but with a bit of coaxing he would give me a glance, whereupon I praised and continued the walk.

If it is supposed to be done while standing still, why were you doing it walking??
I'm taking these exercises slowly. I called Jerry, and he wanted me to proceed quickly to the "Family Pack" exercises ... much more solid groundwork of automatically paying attention. I had suspected this before, but didn't know how to do it.

And I suspect that you still don't know how to do it. It appears that you are trying to get Muttley to learn two things at once. Like I said above, start with getting Muttley to reliably pay attention to you. Then move on from there. It will work much better than trying to do two things at once.
This was definitely lacking in Janet's class. I was immediately barking commands and applying corrections to enforce sits and stays, ... thinking of ways to "fix" this mistreatment, by attacking somebody in the class, which was the only place this occurred.

So it is no longer that the other dog provoked him somehow?? Looked at him funny? Insulted his mother?

Marcel Beaudoin and Moogli
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You really are an ***, you know that? Everyone here knows it. Why you continue to berate the free in person assistance you received

Not only proving once again that no good deed goes unpunished, but that there's always a good reason why a man of Schoen's age isn't married - in this case, because there's no woman dumb enough to actually marry someone that weird. Okay, maybe Lisa Marie Presley would, but that's about it.
And it wouldn't surprise me to learn that "Helene" is really Schoen's sister either.
Or someone he abducted from a Wal-Mart parking lot.

Prediction: We'll eventually see Schoen on the evening news, and Geraldo Rivera will be interviewing his mother, who will try to claim that her son was always such a nice little boy and that she can't understand why he "snapped" and killed that nice Mormon family.

Handsome Jack Morrison
Way to go, Vikings!
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Too bad, muchachas putierrez! Better luck next time, putas! http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/sports/soccer/25goldcup.html ? r=2&ref=soccer&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
This is my forum
Um, no, Paul, it's a public forum. Why don't you save bandwidth and put your notes on your web site? You could provide a link, and then everyone who is interested could click to read.

for reporting my
experiences and fine tuning Muttley's training to be as effective as possible.

FurPaw

The Bush legacy - no child left a dime.
To reply, unleash the dog.
This is my forum Um, no, Paul, it's a public forum.

I think he's very quickly being assimilated into the Howe Collective.
Why don't you save bandwidth and put your notes on your web site? You could provide a link, and then everyone who is interested could click to read.

That would amount to spam. He's allowed to post his "notes" here. And, besides, I occasionally enjoy a good, black comedy.

Shelly
http://www.cat-sidh.net (the Mother Ship)
http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)
This is my forum Um, no, Paul, it's a public forum.

I think he's very quickly being assimilated into the (**) Collective.

ROFL!
Why don't you save bandwidth and put your notes on ... and then everyone who is interested could click to read.

That would amount to spam.

Not if he's not advertising anything for sale on that page.
He's allowed to post his "notes" here. And, besides, I occasionally enjoy a good, black comedy.

Yabbut... with assimilation, his posts, already getting lengthy, will soon approach the bulk of those of the Collective. You could always click on a link for your comedy fix...

Not that it's gonna happen.
FurPaw

The Bush legacy - no child left a dime.
To reply, unleash the dog.
This is my forum Um, no, Paul, it's a public forum. Why don't you save bandwidth and put your notes on your web site? You could provide a link, and then everyone who is interested could click to read.

Why would you want to deprive us of a ring-side seat to this grand spectacle?
This is going to be just like an ancient Roman venatio!

Held right here in the "Circus Maximus" of dogdom!

Hell, I'm on the verge of taking Jerry out of the ol' killfile, because I don't want to miss a thing!
Hail, Ceasar!

Handsome Jack Morrison
Control-freaks from the "reality-based" community are at it again! http://www.examiner.com/a-801194%7EGet your hands off our talk radio.html

Way to go, Vikings!
http://gatesofvienna.blogspot.com/2007/06/for-mohammedan-free-denmark.html

United States 2, Mexico 1
Too bad, muchachas putierrez! Better luck next time, putas! http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/24/sports/soccer/25goldcup.html ? r=2&ref=soccer&oref=slogin&oref=slogin
ROFL!

Thank you. My work here is done!
Not if he's not advertising anything for sale on that page.

I meant spam in the less strict sense. It seems to me that doing nothing but posting links to a website would constitute spam.
Yabbut... with assimilation, his posts, already getting lengthy, will soon approach the bulk of those of the Collective. You could always click on a link for your comedy fix... Not that it's gonna happen.

Most definitely not. The entertainment value is less in Paul's posts (I find them kind of sick-inducing, actually) than in others' reactions to them.

Shelly
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http://esther.cat-sidh.net (Letters to Esther)
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