searched the book recommended from my previous post for books on parakeets.
seems like there has not been a new, revised book in over a decade. makes it hard to figure what book to buy, or do what one person said they did and buy 5 different books!!
anyways, way way back in 1967 I was a kid who bought all the Hartz pet supply stuff, the gravel for the floor and the sandpaper perch covers..
it appears that this is now not the way to go.
so its regular wood perches (or natural branches?) and no gravel/grit on the floor.
should there be anything on the floor to aid the birds digestion as the gravel was previously thought to do?
thx - Craig
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should there be anything on the floor to aid the birds digestion as the gravel was previously thought to do?

I put paper towels or newspaper on the floor of the cages, and since the droppings land there, I don't encourage my keets to eat anything off the cage floors.
We have a small sandpaper perch in the corner of one of the cages, and they can chew the sand off when they're in the mood. But none of my 4 keets get grit or gravel or sand and they're all doing fine.

I sometimes sprinkle seed or millet on the table so they can satisfy their desire to forage, and they chew on the wooden sides of the playground sometimes too.
searched the book recommended from my previous post for books on parakeets. seems like there has not been a new, ... anything on the floor to aid the birds digestion as the gravel was previously thought to do? thx - Craig

~~Gravel on the floor of the cage is unnecessary. Some bird-owners offer crushed oyster shell mixes which include calcium and minerals to help aid digestion. Never use sandpaper perches as these will irritate your birds' feet causing serious foot problems. There are different cement perches available as well as specialty wooden perches that incorporate various thicknesses within the same perch which helps birds' feet relax and stretch. Perches of various diameters take the strain off budgies' feet since they're using different muscles.

Polly's Pastels, Insight, and Hagen are some well-known brands for both cement and wooden perches. I use clean newspaper on my cage bottoms. Newsprint is safe as nowadays most newspapers are printed with soy-based ink. Some people use paper towels or clean brown paper grocery bags. Never use corncob or wooden shavings, as these can be lethal to budgies who are prone to rummaging and chewing and possibly ingesting bits. Hope this helps.
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So Linda, do you not allow wooden chew toys for your budgies? In the breeder rooms we have always used wood shavings, pine or fir at one time or another, now aspen.
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wooden shavings, as these can be lethal to budgies who are prone to rummaging
So Linda, do you not allow wooden chew toys for your budgies? In the breeder rooms we have always used wood shavings, pine or fir at one time or another, now aspen. Bob W

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Bob:
I've heard/read of cases of crop impaction especially with corn cob. Also have heard that cedar is not good at all (poisonous ???). Am I totally off base with my thoughts about shavings used as bedding ... or are these stories mostly urban legends? You're more of an expert on these matters than I am, that's for sure. In my case, it's what I've heard and/or read. Please correct me if I'm wrong as I don't like giving erroneous information to new bird-owners. Yes, my birds get wooden chew toys, but mostly small manzanita thingies. The big chewers are my lovebirds, not the budgies. I've had lovebirds chew through wooden perches as they're standing on them and landing on their fuzzy butts ... LOL !

LindaA
Read my post I said nothing about cedar or cob. But I have never had a bird eat the pine or fir or aspen bedding. They chew wooden toys to dust yet we worry about what we use to catch their poop.
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"Never use corncob or wooden shavings, as these can be lethal to budgies who are prone to rummaging and chewing and possibly ingesting bits." As I said I've read/heard* that corncob and wooden shavings *can be lethal. Is this wrong information then? I'd really like to know. In any event, I leave it to the OP to use his discretion. Should he so choose he can use pine, fir or aspen for his two budgies, since these are safe beddings or, as I recommended, newspaper. His birds, his decision.

LindaA
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Cedar should never be used, cob has been reported as unsafe by many folks. Sall kool kiddo.
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Cedar should never be used, cob has been reported as unsafe by many folks. Sall kool kiddo. Bob W

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Uh-huh, very kool, thanks for clarifying.

L.
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