I now have a boxer living at my house temporarily. She showed up at the middle school (yes, the same one the cat showed up at before Christmas it is between two pretty big developments and has kids with food). She looks like she is not fully grown, but she has obviously been nursing in the not too distant past. I didn't get a chance to take her to the vet. I am keeping her here while AC and announcements figure out if she belongs to anyone, but, unlike the cat, I don't think she will be staying.

She is really scrawny. She gets along fine with my dogs though she got a little bit snarky with Punk. I can't tell if it is a problem or just a reaction to that in your face lab stuff at this point. I didn't let it go to find out. She doesn't like the crate, but since it had food in it, she decided she could try it out. Once in, she didn't have a problem. When she gets out, she doesn't want to go back in, but, once in again, she settles down. I don't want her to get into trouble with the other dogs, so she has to spend the time I am gone crated.

She hates to be outside even long enough to go potty. She doesn't go on command and she is too busy pawing at the door to let the stupid human know that she belongs back in the house to get her business done very quickly, so that is something to work on. If she is not claimed I want her to go into rescue, but I won't know if she is purebred or mixed until I get her to the vet. She is white with some grayish black spots. Is that a boxer color? Her face is very very boxer and so is her nub, which goes a mile a minute when she is getting lovies or sees food.

She doesn't seem to know any commands, but she doesn't jump on people or furniture and hopped right into the car to go home with me. She seems comfortable and pretty mellow. The girls love her, of course, and want to keep her, but we have enough dogs as it is, especially enough females, and I am not sure boxer bitches and dalmatian bitches are a good combination.
At least she won't be in a scary shelter getting kennel cough and will be getting vet care while she waits for the next step. Can anyone recommend any particular boxer people in Southern California? Does anyone want a sweet boxer girl if she is not claimed and there isn't a spot in rescue for her? Emotion: smile

Paula
"The last thing you want to do when you have put your spleen back in your body is to scrabble around for the sewing kit" Zixia
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If she is not claimed I want her to go into rescue, but I won't know if she is purebred ... goes a mile a minute when she is getting lovies or sees food. She doesn't seem to know any commands...

yep, there are white boxers, and many/most of them have black spots. a mixed breed would probably have a tail. there are some idiots who dock mixed breeds, but it's pretty uncommon, thank goodness. so she sounds like a boxer to me. is it possible she's not following commands because she can't hear them? deafness is pretty common among white boxers (just like dalmations).
i've heard good things about these folks: http://www.chicoboxerrescue.com /. now sure where you are in relation to Chico, but they may be able to help you out.
good luck, she sounds like a really special dog. i wish i had room for a calm white boxer girl. :-(
-kelly
I now have a boxer living at my house temporarily. She showed up at the middle school (yes, the same ... if she belongs to anyone, but, unlike the cat, I don't think she will be staying. She is really scrawny.

Its very possible that her scrawniness is due to having recently bred a litter. Bitches, at least in this breed, tend to get skinny as a rail when nursing.
She gets along fine with my dogs though she got a little bit snarky with Punk. I can't tell if it is a problem or just a reaction to that in your face lab stuff at this point.

Its a rare Boxer that likes a strange dog getting in its face. Try not to allow that to happen while she's there, unless several days have passed and she shows that she doesn't mind the Lab.
I didn't let it go to find out. She doesn't like the crate, but since it had food in it, ... a problem. When she gets out, she doesn't want to go back in, but, once in again, she settles down.

Boxers tend to adore crates believe it or not. They adapt to them very quickly and soon make them their napping/hanging out place, going in willingly.
I don't want her to get into trouble with the other dogs, so she has to spend the time I am gone crated.

Good idea and just so you know, even if you knew she was perfect with other dogs, all the time, you'd probably still have to crate her if she's under the age of 4 or 5. Watch your trashcan and food on the counters while she's there. The breed is notorious for pilching anything remotely resembling, or smelling like, human food.
She hates to be outside even long enough to go potty. She doesn't go on command and she is too ... she belongs back in the house to get her business done very quickly, so that is something to work on.

Boxers, in direct contrast to most Labs, despise the outdoors when a human isn't out there with them. They'll go out, do their business, and demand re-entry right away. Some Boxers enjoy staying outside for a while on very nice days (read that as sunny and in the range of 75-85 degrees F) but the rule of thumb is that they belong in the house, on the comfiest piece of furniture you own, and with you in their sight or hearing range. Since she's new to your house, she'll very likely act like a velcro pup for as long as she's there (if you keep her you can expect that kind of behavior to go on for weeks, sometimes months).
If she is not claimed I want her to go into rescue, but I won't know if she is purebred or mixed until I get her to the vet.

If you have a digital camera, email me some pics of her at cbrsc@!comcast.net (take out the !)
She is white with some grayish black spots. Is that a boxer color?

Yep
Her face is very very boxer and so is her nub, which goes a mile a minute when she is ... commands, but she doesn't jump on people or furniture and hopped right into the car to go home with me.

Heh, that's cuz she's new (the not getting on furniture or jumping on people) and hasn't felt you out yet.
She seems comfortable and pretty mellow. The girls love her, of course, and want to keep her, but we have enough dogs as it is, especially enough females, and I am not sure boxer bitches and dalmatian bitches are a good combination.

Boxer bitches with a *** of any other breed is generally not a good combination.
At least she won't be in a scary shelter getting kennel cough and will be getting vet care while she ... want a sweet boxer girl if she is not claimed and there isn't a spot in rescue for her? Emotion: smile

If you email me, I'll give you the contacts for the west coast reputable Boxer rescues and if you can send me some pics of her I can tell you if she's pure or mixed with a fair amount of accuracy.

Tara
I now have a boxer living at my house temporarily. She showed up at the middle school (yes, the same ... if she belongs to anyone, but, unlike the cat, I don't think she will be staying. She is really scrawny.

Your house runneth over lately!
Poor thing.
She is white with some grayish black spots. Is
that a boxer color?

I've seen them in white with large brown spots before as well as all the other traditional colors.
Her face is very very boxer and so is her nub,
which goes a mile a minute when she is getting lovies or sees food.Oh, definately boxer like!

Does
anyone want a sweet boxer girl if she is not claimed and there isn't a spot in rescue for her? Emotion: smileI recommend lowercase shelly's house.

She needs another boxer for Harriet.
Terri
She is white with some grayish black spots. Is that a boxer color?

I've seen them in white with large brown spots before as well as all the other traditional colors.

Paula, are the spots on her skin or fur? Boxers commonly have grey spots on their skin which show through their white fur. they're especially visible on their undersides.
Her face is very very boxer and so is her nub, which goes a mile a minute when she is getting lovies or sees food.

Oh, definately boxer like!

oh yeah. sometimes harriet's vibrates so fast you can hardly see it.
Does anyone want a sweet boxer girl if she is not claimed and there isn't a spot in rescue for her? Emotion: smile

I recommend lowercase shelly's house.

i wish. really, i do.
She needs another boxer for Harriet.

nope, not unless Paula is willing to spring for a Boxer sex change. harriet can't live with another girlie dog, especially not a bully breed. i get a brane cramp just thinking about it.

shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
unlike the cat, I don't think she will be staying.

harden your heart now, then! Boxers are masters of worming their ways into your heart.
She is really scrawny.

that could be because of her recent pregnancy, but it could also be partly because she's not full grown yet. and, some Boxers are naturally thin. for example, miss bossy pants, who weighs 53lbs:
http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette/playtime.html
She gets along fine with my dogs though she got a little bit snarky with Punk.

as Tara said, that's normal. Boxers can be snarky with other dogs. sometimes it's just social retardation, and after the initial snarky meeting, they settle down into a decent friendship. Boxers can be weird about their personal space, especially when meeting other dogs.
She hates to be outside even long enough to go potty. She doesn't go on command and she is too ... she belongs back in the house to get her business done very quickly, so that is something to work on.

that's normal Boxer behavior. they're very people oriented, velcroey dogs. if they don't have another dog outside with them that they're bonded to, they aren't going to be out there without you. that's one of the reasons i want to cry whenever i see Boxers made to live outside or when i hear about them being warehoused in kennel situations. it breaks my heart to think of them all alone because it goes against their nature so much.
but I won't know if she is purebred or mixed until I get her to the vet.

and the vet may not have a clue. vets often are no good at guessing dog breeds/mixes. can you put any pictures up? or at least take Tara up on her offer to e-mail one to her?
She is white with some grayish black spots. Is that a boxer color?

are the spots on her skin, or her fur? where are they located? it's common for Boxers to have grey skin spots, especially on their throats and bellies. i call them Boxer freckles.
Her face is very very boxer and so is her nub, which goes a mile a minute when she is getting lovies or sees food.

very Boxerish!
I am not sure boxer bitches and dalmatian bitches are a good combination.

i'd advise against it, in general. Boxer bitches can be very bitchy.
At least she won't be in a scary shelter getting kennel cough and will be getting vet care while she waits for the next step.

amen! thank you for taking her in!!
Can anyone recommend any particular boxer people in Southern California? Does anyone want a sweet boxer girl if she is not claimed and there isn't a spot in rescue for her? Emotion: smile

definitely e-mail Tara and take her up on her offer to provide contact info.

shelly (perfectly foul wench) and elliott and harriet http://home.bluemarble.net/~scouvrette
I had the lab on leash for exactly that reason. Even if it weren't a boxer, I don't do doggie introductions with a bozo dog without some precautions. And, much as I love her, I have to say that Punk is a bozo dog when it comes to introductions. She is very submissive, so I don't have to worry about her keeping things going, but I do have to worry about her sending the wrong signals.

Punk started to bounce up and say hi, the boxer started a WTF response and the lab was out of her face before she could even get far enough to be in her face. That is why I can't tell if it is a problem. No opportunity to figure it out. I don't intend for there to be any such opportunity. They can all have some controlled hanging out time while she visits.
I didn't let it go to find out. She doesn't ... go back in, but, once in again, she settles down.

Boxers tend to adore crates believe it or not. They adapt to them very quickly and soon make them their napping/hanging out place, going in willingly.

I figured it wouldn't make anybody upset to have a crate trained dog and it certainly is a necessity here. If her owners show up, they can crate or not. If she ends up with rescue, any training she has will be all for the better. She doesn't seem to have any obedience training at all. Even sit meets with blank stares. She is attentive, but clueless. She has a collar, a tacky spiked one that is loose enough to catch on something but not loose enough to get over her big fat head, but no tags. I will probably end up getting her a new collar. I don't like having a snag hazard, but she needs a collar for controllability since there is no way to call or lead her at this point.
I don't want her to get into trouble with the other dogs, so she has to spend the time I am gone crated.

Good idea and just so you know, even if you knew she was perfect with other dogs, all the time, ... on the counters while she's there. The breed is notorious for pilching anything remotely resembling, or smelling like, human food.

I already have a counter surfer and a couple of trash raiders, so the hatches were battened down. Poor dog doesn't even get a chance to be naughty a first time! She did find a piece of tin foil on the ground at the school that she was fascinated by. I wonder if it was lingering smell, shape (rolled in a ball), reflection or what. I didn't try a ball with her because Diva might decide to hate her for that reason alone. Damn usurpers coming in and stealing ball time with mom! Diva hasn't decided to hate her at this point and I don't want that to change.
She hates to be outside even long enough to go ... done very quickly, so that is something to work on.

Boxers, in direct contrast to most Labs, despise the outdoors when a human isn't out there with them. They'll go ... she's there (if you keep her you can expect that kind of behavior to go on for weeks, sometimes months).

Heh. I;ve been spoiled for a while with dogs who will go outside and go potty by themselves and then come back to be let in. She does the most pathetic expression as she plasters her entire body up against the sliding door. She has pity party down to an art, I think. She and the cat really seem to like each other. The other dogs just tolerate the cat.

Dalmatians seem to be breedist as well and Diva doesn't even like other dalmatian bitches for the most part. She is fine with the mix that we've got and a firm hand and strict rules, but I don't really want to push it. I think this one will be highly adoptable if not claimed. She is still fairly young, is cute and sweet, not too big, looks pathetic with her ribs all showing...
At least she won't be in a scary shelter getting ... and there isn't a spot in rescue for her? Emotion: smile

If you email me, I'll give you the contacts for the west coast reputable Boxer rescues and if you can send me some pics of her I can tell you if she's pure or mixed with a fair amount of accuracy.[/nq]I will have to see if I can dig up my camera. I haven't used it since we moved. I don't know why I hate taking pictures so much. If she is still around, I will definitely be asking you about boxer rescues. The shelter here is not that great and there are a lot of dogs in there at most times. There is a lot of the rural roaming unfixed dogs stuff going on here. There are also people who should know better, including a teacher I work with, breeding their dogs deliberately to make some extra money.

In fact, the teacher was proudly announcing his latest batch of boxer pups a few months ago. He didn't even realize that he should be grateful he hadn't needed vet assistance. He does love his dogs and takes pretty good care of them, at least.

Paula
"The last thing you want to do when you have put your spleen back in your body is to scrabble around for the sewing kit" Zixia
If she is not claimed I want her to go ... or sees food. She doesn't seem to know any commands...

yep, there are white boxers, and many/most of them have black spots. a mixed breed would probably have a tail. ... she sounds like a really special dog. i wish i had room for a calm white boxer girl. :-(

I got to see my first boxer boing today. That is one of the funniest things I have ever seen. Between the boing and the little nubbins going a mile a minute, I can see why people fall in love with boxers and why shelly finds them an endless source of entertainment.
I had to meet a landscaping guy at my house today and he got there before I got home from work so when I walked in, the dogs had to deal with company instead of just me. Punk was beside herself. Here was mom home at last and a new person to meet and greet. She cracked me up because she would go up to the landscaping guy and whimper as she held herself back and then run back to me and sit and smile and then run back and whine and then run back and sit and smile.

She wanted so badly to jump up and say hi but she knew she wasn't supposed to. So, she refrained, but not without some whimpering in frustration and not without constantly coming over for positive reinforcement. "See what a good dog I am, Mom? I didn't jump up or shake his hand with my mouth. Tell me what a good dog I am, pleeze! Oh, and I am sitting beautifully, too, see? I am SUCH A GOOD DOG!!!" So she is cracking me up with that act and the boxer is cracking me up with the boinging and I am in a much better mood than I was when I left work today.

Paula
"The last thing you want to do when you have put your spleen back in your body is to scrabble around for the sewing kit" Zixia
I've seen them in white with large brown spots before as well as all the other traditional colors.

Paula, are the spots on her skin or fur? Boxers commonly have grey spots on their skin which show through their white fur. they're especially visible on their undersides.

Yes, it does seem to be on her skin more than on her fur. I can't get her to calm down enough right now to check out her undersides very carefully, but she has been cooped up with no people in the house. I'll try again after she has had a chance to get some of the boings out.
Oh, definately boxer like!

oh yeah. sometimes harriet's vibrates so fast you can hardly see it.

I said in another post that I am totally beginning to see why your two keep you constantly entertained.

I don't know if I would spring for a sex change. It seems to me that even if I were to rob a bank or something, the dogs would have to go through the pain of the operation and they might still be bitchy even after they were no longer technically bitches. I think I'd rather have more to show for it if I am going to go to the trouble of bank robbing. I suppose you are off the hook. If a male boxer shows up at school next, though...

Paula
"The last thing you want to do when you have put your spleen back in your body is to scrabble around for the sewing kit" Zixia
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