I love my pup but nothing is working bringing him out after meals, after playtime and going for walks. I have put on a schedule and let him play out in playpen and as soon as I put him in the crate he does his duties. I have placed soiled scotowles with his urine and feces in a spot in the yard but to no avail. What am I doing wrong?
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What am I doing wrong?

Letting him mess in his crate. Don't do that. I wasn't kidding about setting aside a day dedicated to teaching him to poop outside, and not putting him in his crate until he's done it.

Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - (Email Removed)

Bad policies lead to bad results.
What am I doing wrong?

Mostly, being impatient. You have something like 2 months worth of ingrained habit to undo, and it is not going to happen overnight. As others have said, your dog has been trained to go in the crate. Unless you want your dog to eliminate in the crate (if you're litterbox training, you could put it in there, I suppose), do not use a crate for him. For him, it is the place for pooping/peeing.
If you have him on a schedule, you have some idea of when he is going to eliminate. Take him out. If he doesn't, bring him back in, keep him tethered to you or otherwise contain him somewhere where you can see him, and watch out for signals that he wants to go. As soon as he shows signs of wanting to relieve himself, rush him outside. If he does go, throw a party, pet, praise, give him a treat, whatever makes him happy, and lets him know that he's done good. If he doesn't go, bring him back inside and try again.

If he starts to go inside, interrupt him, take him out, and let him finish up outside. Toilet training this dog is going to take vigilance, consistency and time.
Suja
I love my pup but nothing is working bringing him out after meals, after playtime and going for walks. I ... with his urine and feces in a spot in the yard but to no avail. What am I doing wrong?

Have you had a chance to take a day of holding him and only letting him down when he is outside? He thinks he is being such a good boy by going just where he was trained to. I'd take him off your hands in a minute. He will be a great dog once you can set up a time to let him know that outside is okay, too. But you are going to have to make it so he can't possibly go unless he is outside and that means being out there with him all day if that's what it takes or holding him if he needs to be indoors so he can't go and will need to go when you take him out.

Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
I understand what everyone is saying but when I am cooking or taking a shower I can't have him tetherred to me

You can when you're cooking (or for one day you can forgo proper meal preparation and either eat nukular food or prepared food). You can also skip a shower until he poops. I've done this, and while you may have to wait until afternoon to give yourself a proper scrubbing, being a little stanky for a few hours isn't going to kill you. The tradeoff is: inconvenience for a day (probably 1/2 day) OR a dog that isn't housetrained.

Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - (Email Removed)

Bad policies lead to bad results.
in thread "janet hodson" (Email Removed) whittled the following words:
Have you had a chance to take a day of ... best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay

When I'm training a puppy, I tether it to me while cooking.When showering, I tether them outside.
I understand what everyone is saying but when I am cooking or taking a shower I can't have him tetherred to me and I have no other way to make sure that he doesn't hurt himself other than putting him in the crate.

Why can't you put him outside then? Say, inside an X-pen? Where the only place he could "go" while you were showering, cooking, etc., would be on the grass?
In fact, you should think about staying outside with him as much as possible right now, so that he has no choice but to start "going" on the grass. Yes, even all day long, if possible. If you can't stay out there with him all day, put him somewhere (in the X-pen, for example) where you can see him from inside the house and then go about your chores.
Until he becomes as classically conditioned to "going" on grass as he already is to "going" in his crate, you're not going to make any progress.
None. Nada. Zilch. Zero.
So I'm going to repeat what I told you after your very first post: The crate is your enemy right now. Stop using it!
That is, you've got to get him to start "going" on grass, period.

Use your brain to figure out other ways to make that happen, too.

That's what it's for, isn't it?
I don't want to hear anymore excuses from you about why you can't do this and you can't do that. It's getting old.
You managed to get yourself into this mess, and now it's up to you to get yourself out. You've been given a lot of good advice already, now stop whining and get with the freakin' program!
Have you had a chance to take a day of ... and will need to go when you take him out.

Handsome Jack Morrison
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I don't need your negative advice but I do want to thank everyone else for the kind thoughts anda dvice and guess what it finally payed off. I stayed outdoors with him for 45 minutes and he finally defecated in the grass. Maybe the beginning. Thanks again.
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