Hi everyone,
I need some advice (obviously).I am a recent college graduate. I have a steady job where I work 9 hrs a day (except every other Friday I have off). I go out for a few hours maybe once or twice a week, to the gym a couple times, but other than that I am normally home. I have two roommates, and we have all been wanting a pet. We all want a dog, but I know that a dog would be miserable being home alone all day while we are all at work. One is allergic to a cat, but I still miss having pets.

I had cats and dogs and small pets all my life until about 4 years ago, but have actually never had a bird. I worked at a pet store for 1.5 yrs a few years ago and worked with the birds a bit towards the end and was very tempted to get one, but did not have the money in school (and did not want the committment at the time). Here's the advice portion:

I saw an ad in the paper today for a four year old Sun Conure for $250, and includes the cage. The ad says "friendly and bright (of course)," but I have not called for more details. I do not want to call unless I am ready to get it. The bird will be primarily mine. I will not rely on my roommates to care for it, so they are not much of a consideration...
My questions are:
- Will this bird be okay in the house alone for 9 hrs a day? I've read to leave a radio or tv on for company... does this work?

- How noisy are they actually? I've read that they are VERY noisey, and some accounts of them really only being vocal when they are happy or excited.
- How friendly are they to "guests?" If I have to go away for a week for work (might happen two or three times a year), will it be okay with a friend or roommate caring for it?
- Also, how well do they travel (in a car in a "travel cage")? If I go the three hours to visit my parents and bring it, will it be okay with that?
- And lastly, how long do they live? I've seen some sources that say 20-25 years, and others that say 50 years, and some that say "it will live as long as you do."
These are my concerns. I know that so many people get parrots and are not prepared for the committment. If a sun conure will be happy with me, I would love to get it (because then I will know that it will be in a happy, healthy home and won't need to be given up several times in its life like so many parrots do). However, I do not want to get it if it is going to be depressed.
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Thanks everyone and sorry for writing so much!
Becky
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My questions are: - Will this bird be okay in the house alone for 9 hrs a day? I've read to leave a radio or tv on for company... does this work?

Yes, but generally a dog can handle being home alone all day much better.
- How noisy are they actually? I've read that they are VERY noisey, and some accounts of them really only being vocal when they are happy or excited.

That's probably dictated more by envirnment than anything else. My sun conure is a quiet bird. But his first family gave him up because he was way too noisy.
- How friendly are they to "guests?"

Not answerable. There are as many different personalities and temperments as there are sun conures.
If I have to go away for a week for work (might happen two or three times a year), will it be okay with a friend or roommate caring for it?

Yes, but that is not relevant to your first question in this part.
- Also, how well do they travel (in a car in a "travel cage")? If I go the three hours to visit my parents and bring it, will it be okay with that?

Yes.
- And lastly, how long do they live? I've seen some sources that say 20-25 years, and others that say 50 years, and some that say "it will live as long as you do."

Naive question. Potential life span has nothing to do with how long the average pet conure lives. Because of poor diets and a general lack of proper veterinary care, most pet conures probably die before they reach the age of ten.
These are my concerns. I know that so many people get parrots and are not prepared for the committment. If ... happy, healthy home and won't need to be given up several times in its life like so many parrots do).

You're young. You have roommates. Are they somehow commited to being your roommates for life? You don't even know yet if you are capable of tolerating the potential noise and mess (you've completely missed that factor) of this bird and you expect your roommates to accept it. Your life will change in many ways yet so don't get too far ahead of yourself.
However, I do not want to get it if it is going to be depressed.

That is mostly up to you and has little to do with any of the questions you've asked.
Thanks everyone and sorry for writing so much! Becky

Get a dog. Inflicting your wants on your roommates isn't fair to them or any bird you might get.
J
Hi everyone, I need some advice (obviously). I am a recent college graduate. I have a steady job where I ... alone for 9 hrs a day? I've read to leave a radio or tv on for company... does this work?

No. Although you work 9 hours a day, you still need to travel to and from work, do shopping etc so it will likely be left for longer. Birds suffer in enforced isolation as they have a strong flock instinct. It will end up screaming (you DO know that sun conures are one of the noisiest don't you?) or plucking its feathers out in distress.Television pictures cannot be seen by birds apparently, radio is not another bird, it is simply monotonous background sound. Birds need company, not just noise.
- How noisy are they actually? I've read that they are VERY noisey, and some accounts of them really only ... (might happen two or three times a year), will it be okay with a friend or roommate caring for it?

Who knows what this particular bird is like? Birds are all different in temperament. Some like people, some don't, some bite, some don't. They ALL however make a lot of noise and mess, seed hulls chucked pout of the cage, feather dust, bird poop, bits of fruit flung up the bars and on the wall.
- Also, how well do they travel (in a car in a "travel cage")? If I go the three hours ... 20-25 years, and others that say 50 years, and some that say "it will live as long as you do."

Do a google search on sun conure lifespan.
These are my concerns. I know that so many people get parrots and are not prepared for the committment. If ... of the loudest. Most seem to get rehomed at least once in their lives because people didn't do enough research.

If you would like a bird, consider 2. If you would like a bird, do several weeks at least research into what bird keeping involves. Do the sun conure a favour and leave it be. It will only end up being rehomed again after being miserable before this happens and before making you and your housemates miserable. Do some reading before considering a bird.

'Guide to companion parrot behaviour'
'My parrot my friend'
'Guide to a well behaved parrot'
'Birds for dummies'
If you would like a bird, consider 2. If you would like a bird, do several weeks at least research ... afterbeing miserable before this happens and before making you and your housemates miserable. Do some reading before considering a bird.

Miss Molly was right on every point. You're better off finding another pet. It's difficult to imagine just how much time must be devoted to bird care until you've experienced it, so best to listen to the words of the wise. Karen
Many, many people who work, also own birds that are very happy. Sure it's great if like me there is always people home, but during the times when both of us were working days, my birds did not suddenly develop problems. If you decide to get a bird, either this one or any bird, it will need a LARGE cage, with plenty of toys to keep it's self busy. Then when you come home you need to be prepared to spend some time with the bird, this can be as simple as allowing the bird to ride around on your shoulder.

Of the 2 birds I have that want attention this is what makes the Conure much easier. He can sit on my shoulder while I do just about anything, which he does a lot. I just have a bunch of T-shirts, change them as he makes a mess. Now as to personality all birds are different. My Conure (a Blue Crown) is a close relative of the Sun. He was semi wild when we bought him, had been kept outside with another bird for 4 years because of the noise. After taming him, the noise was controlled to some extent, but Conures are going to be loud at times.

The one good thing is normally this is a day time thing. I have never seen one that screams at night, so at least you will not be disturbing the neighbors late at night.
Now my BCC will readily come to me, but will draw blood badly to anyone else who makes the mistake of offering him a hand. Now I have seen many Conures who will readily go to and be friendly with anyone who will give them attention. Has a lot to do with how the bird has been raised, whether he has been regularly handled by many people.
You "may" have a problem trying to take one from another home, he "may" not react well at all to being moved to a strange home with strange people. Other people in the house would have to be willing to work with you and the bird. If they can't tolerate his possible screaming this could be a disaster. If they are interested in a bird, and willing to take the time to try to work with you it "may" work out fine.
Bottom line, be careful, try to make sure you are willing to try to keep the bird for the next 20 or 30 years if you take it. The worst thing for these guys is to get bounced from one home to another. Good luck, birds are a GREAT pet, BUT, they are not for everyone.
25% graduate functional illiterates. We should remove the warning labels from everything and let nature take care of the problem. Peter Weisbach
Can I suggested a lineolated parakeet?
Whatever you decide, please search before, take your time, talk to breeders and keepers and take an adult desicion.
If you want to know more about Linnies, let me know.

Paulo
Get a dog. Inflicting your wants on your roommates isn't fair to themor any bird you might get.

Please don't get a dog. You will end up with something which barks and howls it's unhappiness at best and ... and assumed it would be fine to be left in solitary conefinement until theycame home. Get a couple of cats.

That's just asinine. You always seem to think that nobody is capable of proper pet care, but you think that the 150 animals you have are living the good life.

James
That's just asinine. You always seem to think that nobody is capable of proper pet care, but you think that the 150 animals you have are living the good life.

It's not personal, any post starting shall I or I have for sale will get slammed here. The A-team dont take to newbies or people seeking help or advice. Google and Vet are the most common answers to posts here. Ray (B-team)
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