This question is cross-posted between rec.pets.herp and rec.ponds, since I have found both groups to be helpful, but didn't know who to direct this question to.
I installed a kiddie pool in my box turtle enclosure in my yard, with a small circulation pump and embankment so the turtles can get in and out.
I want to put plants and a few goldfish in the pond to keep the water clean. The fish are to "process" the turtle waste, since the turtles like to defecate in the water, and it often comes out in chunks (this is per the suggestion of a rec.ponds person).
However, I am worried about transmitting pathogens/parasites to my turtles. I would quarantine the fish of course, and soak the plants in something.
Is there anything I should be on the lookout for?
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This question is cross-posted between rec.pets.herp and rec.ponds, since I have found both groups to be helpful, but didn't know ... and a few goldfish in the pond to keep the water clean. The fish are to "process" the turtle waste,

*** The fish will not EAT the turtle's waste - if you mean their stool. You will need a filter to "process" that.
since the turtles
like to defecate in the water, and it often comes out in chunks (this is per the suggestion of a rec.ponds person).

*** I never saw any of my fish, rosy reds, goldfish or koi eat/process turtle waste.
However, I am worried about transmitting pathogens/parasites to my turtles. I would quarantine the fish of course, and soak the plants in something. Is there anything I should be on the lookout for?

*** A good quality heavy duty pump and filter? ;-)
McKoi.. the frugal ponder...
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This question is cross-posted between rec.pets.herp and rec.ponds, since I have found both groups to be helpful, but didn't know ... defecate in the water, and it often comes out in chunks (this is per the suggestion of a rec.ponds person).

That sounds wrong to me.
However, I am worried about transmitting pathogens/parasites to my turtles. I would quarantine the fish of course, and soak the plants in something.

I've never (to my knowledge) had a fish make my turtle sick or vice versa. Turtles are natural carriers of salmonella however.I have a red eared slider in my pond. I mention this only to show a some turtle experience. I have no knowledge of box turtles (other than they look way cool). I didn't see the thread here about fish "processing" turtle waste, but to be honest, I just don't see that happening. First, even if the defecate matter is large, and even if some fish eat some of it, turtles generate a huge quantity of poop. There will also be the smaller matter that fish may or may not eat.

Additionally, lets say the fish DO eat it ALL, it's still going to come out somewhere (I think this is the fifth law of Physics, conservation of crap, also found in government.) This will eventually have to be removed. That will involve water changes and you will have the hassle of having to dechlorinate the water every time so your fish don't die.

I think a far simpler method would be to have no fish and:

A) make the pool removable so you can dump it weekly. B) get a serious filter if you want the plants
C) if the pool isn't easily moveable, pump the dirty water out weekly.

Just as an aside, kiddy pools don't last long as operating ponds, the UV gets them or they puncture. You might consider a preformed pond instead.

Hope that helps. Good luck.
San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.
"We need to make a sacrifice to the pond gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"
I agree with Joe "Additionally, lets say the fish DO eat it ALL, it's
still going to come out somewhere (I think this is the fifth law of Physics,
conservation of crap, also found in government.)" such a good line
I had to post it again... ;-)
Anyway.
Following the one of the first rules of pond keeping - smaller is harder to manage than bigger - that's where you are going to run into problems. A real high biological load for a small body of water.
Cleaning is going to be your biggest chore and I'd think entirely on those lines.
In regular ponds bottom drains come in really handy for cleaning. If you don't have one you end up draining the pond, catching the fish and scooping the poop. (we do that but we have two handy, dandy teenage boys)
I'm betting the folks are rec.herps will have some great solutions. I have had turtles come in my large pond and they were no problem at all. We run a 150 gallon stock tank filter for 3,000 gallons. Very personable critters.
kathy :-)
www.blogfromthebog.com
new this week - turtles!
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Box turtles are not aquatic and will probably drown in a "kiddie pool."
Fish don't eat poop.
It's the plants that will "process" the turtle waste AND fish waste. Get a filter.
Cindy
Ahh ok let's forget about the goldfish eating the poop, as it seems to be incorrect. I explained that because I thought someone might ask why I was including goldfish, but it turned out to be more of a distraction itself Emotion: smile
So I probably wouldn't need to worry about the turtle's health then, as long as I keep the water clean?
Ahh ok let's forget about the goldfish eating the poop, as it seems to be incorrect. I explained that because ... So I probably wouldn't need to worry about the turtle's health then, as long as I keep the water clean?

Yup!
San Diego Joe
4,000 - 5,000 Gallons.
Goldfish, a RES named Colombo and an Oscar.
"We need to make a sacrifice to the pond gods, find me a young virgin... oh, and bring something to kill"
Is there anything I should be on the lookout for?

Yeah, what remains of the fish floating around after the turtles have made a meal out of them
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