Hi everyone, just want to ask a quick question.
Tonight i gave Atlas a chicken wing (uncooked) and he started to choke on it, i grabbed him and help him get it out, once it was free he started to really growl at me and took a bite of my finger (not a play bite like before, this was a real one and hurt a lot)
He is almost 10 weeks old.
I understand dogs that growl and protect their food, but i dont want him to be that bad. Is there anything i can do to teach him to be better around food?
Thanks
Cin

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I understand dogs that growl and protect their food, but i dont want him to be that bad. Is there anything i can do to teach him to be better around food?

Start by trading good things for better things - take away a biscuit, give him a piece of liver. Give him his dinner in portions - while he's eating, add more to his dish; pretty soon you should be able to put him in a sit while you're doing stuff to his food bowl.
As a side note, Atlas growling at you, for any reason, shouldn't be acceptable.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
Start by trading good things for better things - take away a biscuit, give him a piece of liver. Give ... doing stuff to his food bowl. As a side note, Atlas growling at you, for any reason, shouldn't be acceptable.

I know it isnt acceptable, but how to i punich him for doing it? (i dont believe in hitting or smacking him, i usually just squrt him with water)

He also has not growled once since i got him (3 weeks ago) until the chicken tonight. he turned into a different dog! I have a 13 month old niece that i see A LOT of, i babysit most afternoons and dont let Atlas and her play together (unless i hold Atlas and let Faith come to him) I just dont want to have to pull him off her if something happens because of food.

I want to do the right thing for him, i have never trained a dog before and really dont want to make any mistakes
I go back to puppy pre school on wednesday so i will bring the topic up and see what they say about it, but i thought that until then, this is a good place to start
Thanks
Cin
Hi everyone, just want to ask a quick question. Tonight i gave Atlas a chicken wing (uncooked) and he started ... want him to be that bad. Is there anything i can do to teach him to be better around food?[/nq]You should be working towards getting your dog to react positively to you being around his food. You want him to think that something GOOD is going to happen when you're around. In addition to the trade games that Matt mentioned, also try hand feeding him. Put the bowl in your lap, and feed him a few pieces of kibble at a time. This could also be a great time to teach him to sit and wait for your release before eating, for example (he's only 10 weeks old, so don't expect miracles).

If you want to try chicken wings again, I would hold on to one end and let him nibble on the other. However, you might want to work with an item of lesser value (like a piece of rawhide, for example) and work up to the chicken. This would also teach him to be more aware of where your hands are - nibbling on your hands will happen, but he should learn that it isn't acceptable.As for putting your young niece and Atlas together, make absolutely sure that they're well supervised. You might want to leave a short leash on him, in case you need to grab a hold of him quickly. Teach him how to behave around little kids, and teach your niece how to play nicely with dogs. I have worked on getting Khan to take treats and direction from young kids (he's generally very good and has a soft mouth), and think that all dogs should be taught how to behave around young ones.

Your niece is probably a little too young to do any serious work, but when my nephew was about that age, he was already feeding him peanut butter (smear a little on the palm, have the dog lick it off - it might tickle and the kid might decide to yank the hand away, so be there to make sure that the pup doesn't go after it). Of course, his first word was 'Khan', he recognizes my car because he thinks it's Khanmobile, he follows Khan around with a goofy grin on his face, and gets terribly upset when Khan leaves.
Suja
Walk away from the computer suja theres a great big world out there dont be scared..
You really need to get alife are you that hideous you arent allowed outside in the light?

> Hi everyone, just want to ask a quick question.

> Tonight i gave Atlas a chicken wing (uncooked) and he started to choke on
> it, i grabbed him and help him get it out, once it was free he started to
> really growl at me and took a bite of my finger (not a play bite like
> before, this was a real one and hurt a lot)
> He is almost 10 weeks old.
> I understand dogs that growl and protect their food, but i dont want him to
> be that bad. Is there anything i can do to teach him to be better around
> food?
You should be working towards getting your dog to react positively to
you being around his food. You want him to think that something GOOD is
going to happen when you're around. In addition to the trade games that
Matt mentioned, also try hand feeding him. Put the bowl in your lap,
and feed him a few pieces of kibble at a time. This could also be a
great time to teach him to sit and wait for your release before eating,
for example (he's only 10 weeks old, so don't expect miracles). If you
want to try chicken wings again, I would hold on to one end and let him
nibble on the other. However, you might want to work with an item of
lesser value (like a piece of rawhide, for example) and work up to the
chicken. This would also teach him to be more aware of where your hands
are - nibbling on your hands will happen, but he should learn that it
isn't acceptable.
As for putting your young niece and Atlas together, make absolutely sure
that they're well supervised. You might want to leave a short leash on
him, in case you need to grab a hold of him quickly. Teach him how to
behave around little kids, and teach your niece how to play nicely with
dogs. I have worked on getting Khan to take treats and direction from
young kids (he's generally very good and has a soft mouth), and think
that all dogs should be taught how to behave around young ones. Your
niece is probably a little too young to do any serious work, but when my
nephew was about that age, he was already feeding him peanut butter
(smear a little on the palm, have the dog lick it off - it might tickle
and the kid might decide to yank the hand away, so be there to make sure
that the pup doesn't go after it). Of course, his first word was
'Khan', he recognizes my car because he thinks it's Khanmobile, he
follows Khan around with a goofy grin on his face, and gets terribly
upset when Khan leaves.
Suja
put him down dont take the chance it will only get worse..i hope you dont have children...

Hi everyone, just want to ask a quick question.
Tonight i gave Atlas a chicken wing (uncooked) and he started to choke on
it, i grabbed him and help him get it out, once it was free he started to
really growl at me and took a bite of my finger (not a play bite like
before, this was a real one and hurt a lot)
He is almost 10 weeks old.
I understand dogs that growl and protect their food, but i dont want him to
be that bad. Is there anything i can do to teach him to be better around
food?
Thanks
Cin

http://members.ozemail.com.au/~ccollings/
We really never lose the ones we love...
They live forever within our hearts.
They say a man isn't dead unless he is forgotten, my brother will never be
forgotten
When a baby is born the angels weep and humans rejoice. When a loved one
dies, humans weep, but the angels rejoice."
Hi everyone, just want to ask a quick question. Tonight i gave Atlas a chicken wing (uncooked) and he started ... want him to be that bad. Is there anything i can do to teach him to be better around food?

You're right that it's understandable. He's a baby, and he just got something really cool and now you're taking it? It's like a toddler hitting the other toddler who trys to play with his toy truck. I got a feeling from some people who've responded here that they think this is a seriously misbehaving dog. The first time I gave my 6 weeks baby foster kitten a chicken wing she growled at me, too, and took a swipe with her claws. I just laughed and worked on taking things from her and returning them, and handling her as she ate (mostly lower-value stuff like canned food), and it took maybe a day before she learned I wasn't stealing her goodies.
Dogs can generally learn that stuff easier than cats. Emotion: smile Hopefully what people meant, and I agree with, is that you shouldn't shrug this off but rather take it seriously as a training opportunity.

First, to avoid choking feed BIGGER pieces. Chicken wings are inappropriate for anything bigger than a ferret.
Second, work hard on teaching Atlas that Mommy doesn't steal his stuff, she trades it for something better. "Trade-ups" are a popular training technique and they're outlined in books like Jean Donaldson's I believe.

Good luck!
-Alison in OH
I understand dogs that growl and protect their food, but ... can do to teach him to be better around food?

Start by trading good things for better things - take away a biscuit, give him a piece of liver. Give ... bowl. As a side note, Atlas growling at you, for any reason, shouldn't be acceptable. Matt. Rocky's a Dog.

Great advice Matt.
Gwen
You should be working towards getting your dog to react positively to you being around his food. You want him ... to sit and wait for your release before eating, for example (he's only 10 weeks old, so don't expect miracles).

I have already started teaching sit and stay when i feed him, but i usually put the food in the crate, from now on i will hand feed him and see how he goes.
As for putting your young niece and Atlas together, make absolutely sure that they're well supervised. You might want to ... him quickly. Teach him how to behave around little kids, and teach your niece how to play nicely with dogs.

Faith is my life, i would never leave her unsupervised around anything. She is still a little scared of him, if i am walking around holding him she wants up as well and 'pats' him but she doenst like him on the ground yet. My little cousin hates dogs, he is so scared of them. I feel sorry for him because they are such great fun to be around (so much better then people) So i am going to do my best to make sure Faith respects them and treats them right.
Thank you so much for the advice, i will keep you posted about how we go with it
Cin
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