Ok, so my neighbor allowed their pair of rotty's to breed again... The female "lady" is about 8 years old now and has only successfully raised one litter when she was younger.

Lynn came over earlier today in a panic, Lady had had one puppy and left it on the concrete of the back porch. The puppy was crying and Lady was ignoring it. I was fixin' to go to work so dad went over with a box and some towels for the pup.
I came home at midnight tonight and went over to see what had happened.

Lady had had one more puppy without the humans around and had not removed the cowl. The pup suffocated. The other pup, Lynn picked the pup up out of the box and Lady snatched it out of her hand and killed it. -( Stupid stupid dog.
I was talking to her husband out in the driveway about work he was going to do on my house this weekend and I heard the distinct sound of a puppy crying!

We followed the sound and found that Lady had had 4 more puppies, two of which were cold and dead. One more was attempting to nurse, (the one that was crying) and the forth pup was tangled up under the blanket she was laying on and quite alive.
So, 2 of the 6 pups are alive. We removed the pups from the *** and I placed them in a carry kennel that I usually use for rehabbing baby critters, (we have raised several week old kittens, raccoons and baby rabbits) and loaned them a heat lamp for them.
Terry managed to milk about 2 cc's of milk from Lady's teats and I showed Lynn how to feed the pups with the syringes that I gave her. I always use syringes for babies as I have more control...

I gave them the money to go to the feed store in the morning and get a can of powdered Esbilac puppy formula and will also teach her how to stimulate the pups to pee/poop, and encouraged Terry to milk Lady a bit more so the pups can get the colustrum.
Time will tell, these two are very active and look very strong. I have raised many other baby mammals, just not puppies! I just hope they will be okay for the next several hours with no food...

I'm not going to raise them, but will teach them what to do. Feed every
4 hours as much as they will take, stimilate them to potty. Increase thelength of time between feedings after 4 weeks of age, and at 5 weeks, start introducing them to canned food. Wean at 8 weeks.

Lots and LOTS of work, but it'll be good experience for them. Maybe they will get the dogs fixed finally. :-P
Wish us luck?
K.

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Luck of course!
I've raised several foster litters and have had better luck with evaporated (reconstituted) or in the carton goat's milk with a egg yolk and a few drops of liquid iron/vitamin supplement. Esbilac, IME, tends to cause unnecessary gastric distress.
The above is also easier to purchase (all ingredients at the grocery store) and cheaper, as it appears money is an issue for them.

Hope this helps
Robin
Ok, so my neighbor allowed their pair of rotty's to breed again... The female "lady" is about 8 years ... work, but it'll be good experience for them. Maybe they will get the dogs fixed finally. :-P Wish us luck?

What a sad story. Poor little puppers. Good luck teaching them to raise the pups, and good luck convincing them to speuter the dogs. I'd contribute to a loan/gift fund to speuter the dogs, if the people can be convinced.
Mustang Sally
This is so depressing. I wish the whole country would adopt a registration policy that made it VERY expensive to own not altered dogs. This is just one more litter of back yard bred Rotties to add to the bad image of the breed.

I'm not saying you shouldn't have saved them, no animal deserved to suffer. I just get frustrated by ignorant owners, especially when they are owners of one of my chosen breeds.
Ok, so my neighbor allowed their pair of rotty's to breed again... The female "lady" is about 8 years ... it'll be good experience for them. Maybe they will get the dogs fixed finally. :-P Wish us luck? K.

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This is so depressing. I wish the whole country would adopt a registration policy that made it VERY expensive to own not altered dogs.

In my town, it costs $3 more per year ($11) to register an unneutered dog. It's a step in the right direction, but hardly enough to be a financial incentive.
And kudos to Katra and DH for helping out with the puppies - it sounds like the owners are totally clueless about whelping.
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To reply, unleash the dog.
Lady had had one more puppy without the humans around and had not removed the cowl. The pup suffocated. The ... up out of the box and Lady snatched it out of her hand and killed it. :-( Stupid stupid dog.

No, stupid, stupid humans.
Lots and LOTS of work, but it'll be good experience for them. Maybe they will get the dogs fixed finally. :-P

I think once the idiots are successful at having puppies, they will try and have more.
Wish us luck?

I wish those puppies long and happy lives.

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Luck of course! I've raised several foster litters and have had better luck with evaporated (reconstituted) or in the carton ... ingredients at the grocery store) and cheaper, as it appears money is an issue for them. Hope this helps Robin

Ok, we will see how they do. :-)
I know what you mean about the brand thing. We raised kittens on KMR made by the same company and often had problems with constipation. My vet would give me laxatone for the kittens and that took care of the problem.
Yes, money is an issue, but I'm willing to pitch in for puppy formula for them. After all, I'm in to animal charities.

Did you ever have any problems with diarrhea using that combo?

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Danke!
I concur...
All of my OWN dogs are fixed and all are either pound rescues or other people's discards. We have 4 dogs. No rotties tho'.

This is redneck country, rotties are popular. If the pups survive, they can bring $100.00 each as unregistered in this area. :-(

Lady is just stupid, but she is not a bad dog per se'. The daddy dog, Bear, is a big, smart cuddly wuddly rotty so there is hope for the pups. ;-) Hand raising them will also be advantageous. Neither one of the parents are "mean" rotties.
No, I don't support uncontrolled breeding, far from it, but I could not stand by and watch these two die also.
They look really good today and took 3 cc's for their first feeding.

K.
Ok, so my neighbor allowed their pair of rotty's to ... weekend and I heard the distinct sound of a puppy

crying!

We followed the sound and found that Lady had had ... the dogs fixed finally. :-P Wish us luck? K. [/nq]^,,^^,,^^,,^^,,^^,,^<

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Hand raising them will also be advantageous.

While this sounds logical, apparently its not necessarily true, of so i have read.
Neither one of the parents are "mean" rotties.

That is very advantageous!

BethF, Anchorage, AK
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