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I have to agree on this. Where I train will allow pups to start puppy class at
7 weeks and they have to show proof of initial vaccines and keeping thevaccines up to date. Of course there isn't the exposure that there would be at Petsmart. However, after having a dog aggressive dog I've decide to risk the early socialization vs the parvo/distemper risk.
beth
Petsmart. However, after having a dog aggressive dog I've decide to risk the early socialization vs the parvo/distemper risk.

I can't remember where I saw it, but I remember coming across a training facility that offered socialization classes for pups as young as 8 weeks old. They specified that the area is designated for use by the puppies only, is disinfected immediately before each class, and they required proof of first set of puppy shots for enrollment. They also stipulated that the puppies be carried into and out of the disinfected areas until they were done with their full set of shots, and there were a bunch of requirements about handwashing and footwear for the humans too.

I would've been comfortable taking a young puppy to a class like that.

Suja
However, after having a dog aggressive dog I've decide to risk the early socialization vs the parvo/distemper risk.

Smart.

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I did that all the time Suja, it had no ... new dogs in new situations that weren't inside of homes.

So, he started acting that way by the time he was 4 months old?

Indeed.
Most of my dog park friends who started off with puppies basically took this route, and haven't seen any ill ... brought their puppies to the park and allowed them to sniff other dogs, but safely perched in the human's arms.

I guess that's what I should have done.
I agree. And it was a dilema. My choice was to not expose but it did cause Blade to have issues.

I don't know, Gwen. If he is a generally reactive dog, this problem might be deeper than inadequate socialization.

I think you are correct. I know one of his siblings in the "C" litter showed the same signs and Chip certainly had mucho socialization.
And then I didn't help by taking him to several trainers that IMO only made him worse.

That's probably the biggest culprit. Are you continuing to work on this issue? Suja

Oh yes, all the time. Though lately of course he has had to be in quiet mode and stay at home with just short walks. He has now recovered enough to be back at it again.
I really need to get in with this most excellent trainer in town.

Gwen
However, after having a dog aggressive dog I've decide to risk the early socialization vs the parvo/distemper risk. beth

Yep Beth definitely one of those live and learn things, without a doubt. If I could go back almost 5 years ago(Blade celebrates his 5th Birthday tomorrow) I would certainly take the risk. To me it far outweighs the lack of very early socialization with a dog like Blade. I did take the risk with Reznor. His trainer has very small puppy classes at her house. Unfortunately when I obtained Blade I didn't have near the network of dog people and trainers that I have since obtained.

Gwen
I would've been comfortable taking a young puppy to a class like that. Suja

That's just it Suja, I have a cootie fetish from my mom who sterilized everything and thought we as infants would catch anything and everything if she didn't constantly sterilize. For that reason I also seem to have obtained this in some ways. Enough so that I couldn't bring myself to risking having Blade around lots of other puppies until he had completed his series of vaccines. Unfortunately now, I feel I should have taken the risk and hoped that my fears would not come to pass.
And BTW, Blade is much better, but he does revert back from time to time. I am sure you recall me posting about him going to the "Mighty Texas Dog Walk" last spring. He did marvelously. Never once did he even make eye contact with other dogs or act as though he cared. He just walked along with all sizes, shapes and breeds, like a perfect gentlemen.

Then afterwards I went to Pets Mart to get some supplies for my Beta fish and low and behold he reacted once again. Seems as though if he is flooded with stimulation he is fine. Sort of like Jack saying he was going to be flooded with Pugs.
My best bet though is a method LynnK has referred to. I am nearly 99.9% certain it will work. Unfortunately he got bloat right after she sent me the message and he hasn't been well enough to take on this. I need to talk with one or the other trainer to see when we can get together.

Gwen
However, after having a dog aggressive dog I've decide to risk the early socialization vs the parvo/distemper risk.

Smart.

I gotta agree. I think GSD is one breed that anyone that obtains one needs to immediately be taking them around as many different people, places, dogs, kids etc as they can from day one. Not one day off until about 20 months old.
Gwen
However, after having a dog aggressive dog I've decide to risk the early socialization vs the parvo/distemper risk.

That's what I did with Rocky. I knew that many Aussies had a prediliction for aggressiveness, especially when it came to space issues, so I socialised the hell out of him right away - in his case at 7.5 weeks. I did control which dogs he came into contact with, but socialisation trumped everything else.

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.
My best bet though is a method LynnK has referred to. I am nearly 99.9% certain it will work. Unfortunately ... on this. I need to talk with one or the other trainer to see when we can get together. Gwen

I just spoke with Reznor's trainer. She is very well aware of this method which she referred to as abandonment training. She says she has even held a seminar about it and how powerful it is *if* the dog is very bonded to you. Which Blade is. He will literally scream in vocalization if I hand his leash to someone and walk away.
Gwen
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