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...If the day is dry and I'm feeling extra thirsty, I know that she probably is too.

Yet most sports-medicine folks will tell you that you're already dehydrated if you wait until you're thirsty.

It's also worrisome to guage your dog's need for water based on what YOU feel. Humans and dogs have very different needs. Dogs, being smaller, can dehydrate sooner, especially when it's hot. It's just not a good idea to think, "well, gee, I'm not thirsty so she must not be either."
Interesting point of note. A breeder-who-shall-remain-nameless (not my breed), restricts water on all her dogs. they are given water at limited times a day, and are given limited amounts of water.

What is the reasoning behind this? I've been following this thread with amazement. I kind of understand someone uneducated about dogs restricting a puppy's water access, but why would a breeder do it??
The two major effects of this are a) dogs who constantly crave water, and b) dogs who have repeated kidney problems and urinary tractinfections.

Does the breeder not understand the connection? Bizarre.

My guess is laziness and heartlessness..it's much easier to deal with those furry little cash cows if they aren't pestering you with those pesky little issues like frequent urination, or immature internal organs. People make me sick.
Many of us have said that a dog should have access to fresh water at all times. I agree with that in spirit but can think of so many exceptions that I have to butt in.

Of course. You don't want to feel like a bad dog mommy, so you will explain to us why your dog has a drinking problem...
My current dog will tank up on water that she doesn't need the way other dogs will overeat.

Oh, yes, of course! Your dog is a water hog, and it's not at all that you are just a little bit
that you'd want to starve her out of drinking
water she obviously needs, or she wouldn't be
drinking it.
Even so, I pay attention to my own thirst. If the day is dry and I'm feeling extra thirsty, I know that she probably is too.

Yes, of course, that's a great idea. Cubbe's thirst obviously coincides with yours. I mean, why wouldn't it?
It has been a few years, and I've been able relax on the schedule a bit and leave her water dish full. She seems to be learning that she needn't drink the whole bowl dry and then ask frantically to go outside (or leak).

You never know when kookoo mommy will steal your water so you better drink up fast.
Your problem is (and you don't want to admit it) is that Cubbe probably isn't really fully housetrained and never has been. That's probably why you are a
little cooockooo about her water.

this is michael
reporting live...
I don't know if Cubbe had an underlying condition that led to her overdrinking in the first place, but for the majority of cases, I think it's more productive to just let them regulate themselves

We got Cubbe from a local shelter so I don't know anything about her first 11 months. It is entirely possible that someone restricted her water which is why she tanked up when we first got her. Those first few weeks of getting to know her were a little difficult. (I got Genny when she was a pup, and Sheppe bonded with everyone in about 10 seconds so I was new to the idea of getting to know a new dog.) It was getting to know Cubbe that landed me in this newsgroup. In any case, I agree that letting them regulate for themselves is preferable in the majority of cases. I can also say that the system we've worked out with Cubbe has worked out fine.
It was getting to
know Cubbe that landed me in this newsgroup. In any case, I agree that letting them regulate for themselves is ... when they tank up on it. The level of water goes up and down according to our presence. The weirdos.


For that you need Twinkies and lunch meat. Eternity through preservatives.

Terry Von Gease
Just an update from my previous post.
I dog sat for a neighbor a few weekends ago (a female 8 mo old Boston Terrier) for a 3 day weekend. For some reason, after that weekend, my beagle hasn't peed in her crate once. Did the BT set a positive example? Strange.
2 weeks later, I saw my vet for my dog's last shot. I told her about thepeeing problem, and she said that's completely normal, especially for beagles. Beagles will apparently drink and eat until they nearly explode if you let them.
One day, I had a great idea. Instead of limiting my dog's drinking by using seconds, I decided to mix her food with water, almost equal parts. Much easier.Again, I don't restrict her water when I am able to watch her, and I've noticed that her need for bathroom breaks have decreased significantly (she goes to the door and whimpers) which is great because the weather is getting colder. She still needs to go out at 4am, but that's fine since I'm getting used to it now. However, I've discovered that she doesn't "need" to go out at that time.

I don't let her sleep in my bed, but when I had overnight guests, they let my dog sleep with them. She didn't wake up all night. So I realized that my dog wakes up at 4am because she's lonely, then pees because she's awake. It's similar to how I also need to pee at 4am when I wake up, even though if I didn't wake up, I'd be fine until 7am.

So now I have a dilemma. Do I let my dog sleep in my bed and deal with the tossing and snoring, or do I keep her in the bathroom and keep waking up at 4am?
Remember continence comes with age too. I'm glad you're not restricting wter anymore. That's just a disaster waiting to happen. I'm still not sure wetting food is ample liquid for thirst quenching. As far as sleeping with your pup..I've always slept with my rat terrier. It's a matter of preference, but I've found that if the owner has no objection, it can be wonderful for bonding and building trust. Betcha a dollar that within a month the need to potty at night with end. She's still a baby with immature organs.
Good luck,
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