We have a 4 month old Cavalier King Charles. He's been with us about 8 weeks and has generally settled well. He goes to bed in his crate at 10pm each night after having been outside, and until recently was getting through to about 6.15. This has gradually come forward to about 5.15am. When I get up to him, he darts for the door to relieve himself outside. (We withold water from him after about 7pm.) Is there any way I can get him sleeping through again to about 6.15 (or later in an ideal world!) Should I just ignore his whines? Surely if 2 weeks ago he was getting through to gone 6, he should be able to go even longer now? Thanks for any suggestions.
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We have a 4 month old Cavalier King Charles. He's been with us about 8 weeks and has generally settled ... he was getting through to gone 6, he should be able to go even longer now? Thanks for any suggestions.

If he is completely housebroken, you can start waiting and making him hold it. If he is not, then getting up in the middle of the night was a part of the puppy package. You knew that, when you took on the job.
This has gradually come forward to about 5.15am. When I get up to him, he darts for the door to ... he was getting through to gone 6, he should be able to go even longer now? Thanks for any suggestions.

How dark is your room? It's spring! Besides the daylight savings time shift in the last few weeks, the birds are chirping, the sun is shining, and that's a clear indicator to a lot of dogs to rise and shine.
Try some room darkening shades.
I like having the sun and birds wake me, and my younger dg definitely lives by the light. I was traveling with him recently and the hotel room was very dark with the curtains closed. On a day I didn't need to get up at any particular time, I was amazed at how late he slept before stirring.

Janet B
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
He goes to bed in his crate at 10pm each night after having been outside, and until recently was getting through to about 6.15. This has gradually come forward to about 5.15am.

Count your blessings that up until now he held it over 8 hours. When I had a puppy, he always needed a 2 am pee break. Now that he's 16 weeks, your CKCS's metabolism may be changing - or he may be just now learning to communicate his discomfort.
When I get up to him, he darts for the door to relieve himself outside.

That's great! You're well on the way to having a reliably house-trained puppy.
(We withold water from him after about 7pm.)

My preference would be to get up in the middle of the night rather than withhold water from a puppy.
Is there any way I can get him sleeping through again to about 6.15 (or later in an ideal world!) Should I just ignore his whines?

You've read that in crate training to not take the dog out when he demands it, but to wait until he's quiet. There should be a caveat attached to that: When he's whining because of physical discomfort, it's perfectly OK to take him out to pee - he's honing the communication skills which will stand you in good stead later.
Surely if 2 weeks ago he was getting through to gone 6, he should be able to go even longer now?

Maybe not - he's a tiny dog (I know, I look after a 5 month old CKCS 5 days a week who never peed outside until he came to my daycare) and his metabolism is probably changing faster than the size of his bladder.
My recommendations: Don't restrict his water unless he's an inordinate drinker. Set your alarm for 2 am.
Good luck! CKCSs are wonderful dogs!

Matt. Rocky's a Dog.