Hello. I just bought a Rottweiler pup. He cost $700 US dollars. I found the breeder from a local newspaper ad. The breeder said that he will be the giant-boned type with an enormous head. However, he said that the best way for the dog to achieve the size that he was bred for is to feed the dog puppy food for his entire life because of the extra protein and amino acids. Does this sound right?
I was always under the impression that puppy food is only for the first year. My vet says the opposite. He said that I should stop the puppy food when the dog is 6 months old. This sounds somewhat extreme too. I am so confused!
Ellen
PS. I have him on Science Diet large breed growth. Is this a good choice? The vet suggested it, but then again he sold it to me. The breeder suggested Pedigree Puppy. The pup is 12 weeks old now.
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Hello. I just bought a Rottweiler pup. He cost $700 US dollars. I found the breeder from a local newspaper ad. The breeder said that he will be the giant-boned type with an enormous head.

That is unfortunate because it alwo means your dog has a much higher risk of being crippled by orthopedic disease. Its tough on the joints to carry that extra structure. I'll bet the breeder didn't bother with cardiac testing the sire and dam? OFA cerification to make sure neither had hip displaysia, elbow displaysia or patellar luxation? Thyroid checks to make sure both parents were thyroid normal before breeding? CERF certification to check for eye disease before breeding?
However, he said that the best way for the dog to achieve the size that he was bred for is to feed the dog puppy food for his entire life because of the extra protein and amino acids. Does this sound right?

That kind of feeding very well might induce the extra growth. That kind of induced growth is well known for causing OCD and other forms of joint disease. The best bet for reducing your risks of crippling your dog is to start feeding adult food now.
I was always under the impression that puppy food is only for the first year. My vet says the opposite. He said that I should stop the puppy food when the dog is 6 months old. This sounds somewhat extreme too. I am so confused!

Your vet is closer to correct. Your breeder is making some very unfortunate choices.
Ellen PS. I have him on Science Diet large breed growth. Is this a good choice? The vet suggested it, but then again he sold it to me. The breeder suggested Pedigree Puppy. The pup is 12 weeks old now.

Science diet is what I would call an "acceptable" dog food but not one I would choose to use. The large breed growth formula is designed to reduce the risk of joint disease by not pushing excessive growth. There is no shortage of opinion on what is acceptable dog food. The opinions are based on various parts fact and philosophy. Philosophically I prefer a higher quality dog food, one where the ingredients don't include protein sources I suspect aren't used well in digestion - such as feathers. To do this you will find it useful to learn to read ingredients.

http://www.washingtonsquareveterinaryclinic.com/My%20Pet%20Has%20What/pet food labels.htm http://www.doberdogs.com/foodcht1.html
Dog Health & Nutrition for Dummies, by Christine Zink

FWIW an example of what you can expect from a good breeder is http://www.amrottclub.org/coe.htm
Diane Blackman
Puppy food (we recommend Science Diet,) should be discontinued between 6 mo and 12 mo depending on the dog and the breed. Any longer than that and you risk serious orthopedic problems in large dogs among other things. As the dog ages the extra protein will seriously overwork the kidneys and lead to failure.
If you are weighing the advice of your breeder against your vet, stick with your vet. Your breeder is only interested in getting your pup to look huge. Your vet is interested in its overall health and well being.

-Sharon
Hello. I just bought a Rottweiler pup. He cost $700 US dollars. I found the breeder from a local newspaper ... but then again he sold it to me. The breeder suggested Pedigree Puppy. The pup is 12 weeks old now.

Hi Ellen,
My friends are raising a Swiss Mountain puppy and are dealing with some of the same questions. Make sure you stick with a puppy food for large breeds, as they are formulated differently so such puppies don't grow too fast and develop orthopedic problems. If you're concerned with what your vet says, look up an animal nutritionist in your area and ask them. Have fun with your puppy!! Emotion: smile Pictures??
K
Hello. I just bought a Rottweiler pup. He cost $700 US dollars. I foundthe breeder from a local newspaper ad. ... but then again he sold it to me. The breeder suggested Pedigree Puppy. The pup is 12 weeks old now.

The advice I have heard about what to feed a puppy of a large breed is that you should not feed puppy food for too long, because it will make the puppy grow too fast and that will be bad for the joints. What i've heard is that the smaller the dog the longer you can feed puppyfood, and vice versa. I don't have a large dog (tervuren) but i still changed from puppy food to normal dog food at 6 months. My dogs breeder said that the slower my dog grows the better. He still got pretty big (less than half an inch from max height) and has healthy joints. I think you should listen more to your vet than to the breeder. After all the vet has to know something about dogs, the breeder might know very little.
Rosa
Hello. I just bought a Rottweiler pup. He cost $700 US dollars. I foundthe breeder from a local newspaper ad. ... but then again he sold it to me. The breeder suggested Pedigree Puppy. The pup is 12 weeks old now.

let's see...
$700
bought from paper
bred for size and big head
breeder says to feed puppy food the entire life
science diet
pedigree
that's six red flags. troll or not? you decide...

-kelly
Philosophically I prefer a higher quality dog food, one where the ingredients don't include protein sources I suspect aren't used well in digestion - such as feathers.

Feathers?? Are you trying to indicate that Science Diet contains feathers?
Hello. I just bought a Rottweiler pup. He cost $700 US dollars. I found the breeder from a local newspaper ... but then again he sold it to me. The breeder suggested Pedigree Puppy. The pup is 12 weeks old now.

Ellen,
Your breeder is "Lost in Space". Do not feed a puppy food to a rotty for it's entire life, that would be a very poor choice. As a large breed dog it should be fed a large breed food for the first year, then switched to an adult food. The objective of a large breed food is to reduce musculo skeletal problems that can be reduced by proper feeding. There are two primary nutrients involved in this issue. The first is overall calories to slow growth, thus a large breed food should have fewer calories. This will not change the eventual size of the dog. The second and often forgotten part of solving problems with large breed dogs is keeping calcium intake reduced. A lower calorie large breed food with high levels of calcium will not fix a thing.
Switching to an adult food at 6 months is an old solution that seemed reasonable at the time until we took time to think about it. In fact moving to an adult food can often increase total calcium intake - definitely NOT a good thing in the 2nd six months of the dogs life. Even if the percentage of calcium is the same, the net calcium intake is often increased with an adult food because the animal must ingest slightly larger amounts of food to meet caloric need. Most adult foods have lower calories per pound than puppy foods.
I've owned rotts for years and they are an amazing breed. My last rott died a year this past summer at age 14. Until we get moved back into a house again I have held off getting the next one.
Philosophically I prefer a higher quality dog food, one where ... suspect aren't used well in digestion - such as feathers.

Feathers?? Are you trying to indicate that Science Diet contains feathers?

This is a widely advertized PETA platform. Unfortunately, apparently even Diane fell for this one. This dismays me as much as about anything ever suggested on usenet. I thought she was better educated than this.

But Steve, in the cheaper dog foods, We have a local dog food company (Kings Mill) that uses sawdust as raw fiber. It makes Ol Roy look fabulous.
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