Ok, so here's a question:
A woman takes in a puppy from rescue. She's sort of a foster home, sort of an emergency placement in that the pup was living in horrible conditions and needed to be placed right away (don't know the specifics, but I do know the pup was living in its own filth and was really sick, and understand that it was an owner surrender). Pup arrives at the woman's home at just shy of midnight.
She's had the dog for a few weeks now. She has covered all vet bills, and been the sole caretaker for the pup. They got the pup out of the situation, they found this place for the pup to stay, and let her do the rest. She has incurred numerous vet bills, and has hired a trainer to work on some of the pup's fear issues. She has fallen in love and has decided she wants to adopt the pup.
Here's where it gets sticky for me.
The rescue is demanding a $375 adoption fee. Its more than double their regular fee because its a purebreed dog (Great Dane pup). I'm going to withhold offering my own opinion and would love to see what people out there who are more actively involved in organized rescue groups think. I have limited details, but if more is needed to form an opinion, I'll try and find out.
Tara
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Ok, so here's a question: A woman takes in a puppy from rescue. She's sort of a foster home, sort ... groups think. I have limited details, but if more is needed to form an opinion, I'll try and find out.

Do you know what the total is of the vet bills she's paid? The way I see it, rescue groups can do it one of two ways:
1) foster home pays vet bills but there's no adoption fee; or
2) rescue is responsible for all vet bills (which is how we do it, andhow it should be done IMO) and foster home pays adoption fee. Of course, I also think that

3) an adoption fee is an adoption fee, and should not be dependant onwhether or not the dog is purebred, or what color the dog is (a certain national greyhound group charges more for blue dogs).

In this case, given the situation, I'd call whatever vet bills she's paid the adoption fee and consider us even. It isn't as though the group would be out a lot of money for expenses. Getting the dog into a good home is what it's all about.
Mustang Sally
Ok, so here's a question: A woman takes in a ... needed to form an opinion, I'll try and find out.

Do you know what the total is of the vet bills she's paid? The way I see it, rescue groups ... be out a lot of money for expenses. Getting the dog into a good home is what it's all about.

That's how I viewed this particular situation..though even if the vet bills weren't all that high, I still view $375 for the adoption, when they offered no support for the dog when she was fostering the poor thing, extremely high.
My understanding is that adoption fees generally run under $150 for most groups, slightly higher if the group carries higher bills or for special cases. Am I off base in thinking this way?
Tara
D'oh!
and I forgot to say:
Thanks for responding, Sally!
Tara
My understanding is that adoption fees generally run under $150 for most groups, slightly higher if the group carries higher bills or for special cases. Am I off base in thinking this way?

rescue fees are all over the map around here. The absolute best rescue group I've encountered (GR rescue) has a $225 fee. They raise a lot of funds and invest a lot of money into the dogs before adopting them out. The dogs spend a good amount of time in foster homes. They won't adopt them out until they fully understand the dogs. They work with a behaviorist on any problems and the dogs remain in foster care until they make significant progress. There is an all-breed rescue group here that charges $125, they also have fosters but they seem to get a lot of dogs back after trials. The Lab Rescue where I got Briar doesn't use fosters and keeps the dogs in a kennel situation. They charge $300.

Lynne
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That's how I viewed this particular situation..though even if the vet bills weren't all that high, I still view $375 for the adoption, when they offered no support for the dog when she was fostering the poor thing, extremely high.

If this is a legitimate rescue, they should have standard policy for all this. What is their normal policy on reimbursing for medical expenses? Do they have rescue approved vets that fosters are required to see? Is it possible that she violated their policy in some way, and that's why they are not paying the medical bills?
My understanding is that adoption fees generally run under $150 for most groups, slightly higher if the group carries higher bills or for special cases. Am I off base in thinking this way?

Our group charges $200. The local Dane rescue charges $325 for dogs under a year, $300 for dogs over a year, and $200 for dogs over 6.

Suja
If this is a legitimate rescue, they should have standard policy for all this. What is their normal policy on ... it possible that she violated their policy in some way, and that's why they are not paying the medical bills?

That is a very good question, and one I hadn't considered. I'll see if the person I spoke with knows.
Our group charges $200. The local Dane rescue charges $325 for dogs under a year, $300 for dogs over a year, and $200 for dogs over 6.

Ok, so overall, rescues are caharging more than I had thought (which I don'thave a problem with at all!). My issue was that this is more than double their usual fee because of the pup being a purebreed dog. Is that part weird?
Tara
The rescue is demanding a $375 adoption fee. Its more than double their regular fee because its a purebreed dog ... groups think. I have limited details, but if more is needed to form an opinion, I'll try and find out.[/nq]Generally, the fees are at least partially about the expenses. Since she seems to have footed the vet bills, it would seem that she should have the benefit of that. If she was fostering the dog, the rescue should have paid the bills. If she was not, then she basically had the dog while they did nothing to support it and now they expect to be paid for it. If it were me, I wouldn't assume they are stupid or greedy, but point out that the vet bills paid should be reimbursed by the rescue if the adoption fee is the standard fee charged to someone who does nothing but show up and pay the rescue for the dog.

In all honesty, I'd be willing to pay some money to the rescue as a donation if they were doing good work for other dogs even if they hadn't paid anything for mine. Gunther, for that matter, cost the rescue he came from nothing. A private person had got him out of the shelter and fostered him. She talked her vet into doing the neuter and shots for free. She really wanted to see if she could keep him after having him there for less time than it would have taken to pass him along to a different foster home through the shelter, but it didn't work out with her other dog.

So we ended up with him. The rescue offered him to me for free because I'd paid full fees for Molly even she had already been spayed and was only in foster outside my home for a day before she came here as a foster. They basically just paid for shots. My thinking was that they did a lot of good for a lot of dogs, so I paid full price for each of them even though even they could argue that it wasn't called for in the usual sense that adoption fees are called for.

I was confident that the money would go for the care of other dogs whose adoption fees wouldn't begin to cover their upkeep and care until they were adopted. If I had got them from a rescue I didn't have good feelings about, I'm not sure I would have done that.

Paula
"Anyway, other people are weird, but sometimes they have candy, so it's best to try to get along with them." Joe Bay
She's had the dog for a few weeks now. She has covered all vet bills, and been the sole caretaker ... some of the pup's fear issues. She has fallen in love and has decided she wants to adopt the pup.

Most actual rescues pay vet bills. I never put in for reimbursement for Rudy's, but the rescue waived the adoption fee as well. I paid more in vet bills than the $300 adoption fee, so it all came out in the wash. I could have submitted the receipts and then paid the adoption fee, but it would all seem rather petty.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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