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A friend is very interested in buying a pet parrot, ... the right choice for her living situation. Thanks. LindaA

"Noise" is hard to define. I have 3 birds a Tiel, a Blue Crown Conure, and a Blue and Gold ... and are fearless, can't really scream, will chatter a lot, but I have never seen one with any real volume.~~

Thanks, Alex, for your input. I agree that "noise" is hard to define. It varies from person to person. What someone may consider tolerable may be intolerable to someone else. When all my budgies chatter together, it can be quite a racket but I much prefer this sort of noise to the screeches my quaker makes.I've discussed various aspects of bird-ownership with my girlfriend. Having had birds all my life, she trusts me to tell her pros and cons of having a bird as a companion, the commitment part of bird ownership as well. I've stressed that it's exactly the same kind of responsibility when someone decides to adopt a dog or cat .. that the bird deserves loyalty, love and care as any other companion animal. I'm trying to convince her to go with a budgie (male) or a parrotlet (male), but she's leaning towards something bigger.

I think I'll invite her over again so that she can check out my lovebirds. I have a few bitey ones (all females), but the males are very nice and mild-mannered, so maybe she'll realize they can make great companions, especially if she buys a handfed baby. Thanks again for your comments.

LindaA
I've never heard a loud senegal. Any senegal owners have loud ones?

As to most of the parrot species though, if your friend is in any kind of apartment, a stuffed toy parrot is best.
Your friend shouldn't get a parrot if s/he can't hack the noise, that's a big reason parrots end up in shelters and rescues. It isn't fair to the bird to bring him home and then dump him because you thought you'd get lucky with a quiet bird.

They're birds. They look like birds, sound like birds, and act like birds. Sometimes that means they're noisy. The bigger the bird (i.e. parrot), the bigger the noise. But you already know that if you own birds, so maybe you can dissuade your friend.
(Good friends don't let first time bird owners get parrots...)

Sorry, enough anti-parrots-as-pets evangelism.
I've never heard a loud senegal. Any senegal owners have loud ones? As to most of the parrot species though, if your friend is in any kind of apartment, a stuffed toy parrot is best.

Not an apartment ... a condo. In any event, there are neighbours top and bottom, left and right.
Your friend shouldn't get a parrot if s/he can't hack the noise, that's a big reason parrots end up in ... the bird to bring him home and then dump him because you thought you'd get lucky with a quiet bird.

I know all too well about this type of situation. Friends of mine owned a pet store for many years (they no longer have a store but are still in the pet industry) and many of my own birds were "rescues" from their store .. from people dropping off unwanted birds because " ... the birds were messy, made too much "noise", had no time for the birds anymore, got bored ... etc. ad nauseum. It made me sick ... this whole "pets as disposable garbage" scenario. I landed up taking in a lot of these dumped birds.
They're birds. They look like birds, sound like birds, and act like birds. Sometimes that means they're noisy. The bigger the bird (i.e. parrot), the bigger the noise. But you already know that if you own birds, so maybe you can dissuade your friend.

That's why I'm trying to go the "smaller is just-as-wonderful" route with her. She knows how much I love my budgies (and how cute they are), so this will probably work out just fine.
(Good friends don't let first time bird owners get parrots...)

Budgies are parrots, right?!? But very little ones. ;0)
Sorry, enough anti-parrots-as-pets evangelism.

That's okay, I have no problem with it. Thanks for your feedback.
LindaA
Have had all three all made more noise than my Pacifics. Least noisy bird in our home flock is the Blue Crown Conure, but then he is an odd one.

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I've never heard a loud senegal. Any senegal owners have loud ones?

Emotion: big smileelurks a bit::
I have a Senegal, Ozzy, who, when he wants to can come close to cracking windows with his screeching. When we leave the house, he screeches. You can hear him out on the street, and that's a good... hmm... 100 feet and outside from where the Ozbird is kept.
In general, though, Oz isn't too loud most of the time, although with the introduction of Ringo the Grey, he's gotten louder to try to drown out the annoying red butted intruder. Neither, though, are horrid. Of course, I've got dogs too, so noise to me doesn't register until the dogs are going wild at some stranger walking in the front yard.Senegals make a lovely first bird. Oz was our first bird, even though my mom had a few parakeets as a kid growing up. Ozzy chatters a lot though, repeating the words he knows often. Senegals, btw, can be great talkers. Ozbird, almost a year old, already knows Beep Beep, Beak, Gotcha beak, step up, I love you, Ozzy, hurricane (I was pretty bored the weeks following Wilma, so I thought him that), pretty birdie, pet the birdie, and feed the birdie.

Ringo on the other hand only seems to know how to screech and meow at this point, he's only maybe 6 months old, if that. Definitely keep her away from grays as a first bird... especially if there's more than one person in the house, Ringo has deiced I'm not his person and I've got the puncture wounds to prove it!
cheers, and good luck with getting your friend into birds,

patricia
I've never heard a loud senegal. Any senegal owners have loud ones?

::Delurks a bit:: I have a Senegal, Ozzy, who, when he wants to can come close to cracking windows with ... so noise to me doesn't register until the dogs are going wild at some stranger walking in the front yard.

How old is your Senegal? Ours screeched too when she was younger, but by the time she was three years old she had outgrown it completely.
I have a female red belly. Her body is about 8 inches long. Although she is vocal, it is not painfully loud. There are times when she goes on and on but at a decent volume level. Although at night, she is very quiet, at the break of dawn, she can be an effective alarm clock!
hi Linda
I've never had a parrot before three days ago but I had that type of desire. "The Quite Parrot Thing" I have friends that have or have had parrots and I couldn't deal with something that breaks glass with it's screachs. So I looked for something quiter and got a red-bellied parrot. He is quite even when he screams. the dessibels are way lower. He was about one year old. the pet store I got him from has one more male left. Only $250.00 I am in Florida.
good luck, Niki
PS I decide to change his name to JAVA
How old is your Senegal? Ours screeched too when she was younger, but by the time she was three years old she had outgrown it completely.

Oz will be a year old on December 29th. He was the middle bird of three in the clutch. what's confusing me is his strangle little dance he does occasionally while clicking as if he's keeping a beat. Maybe he's picking up some of the music I play for him...
patricia
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