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I have to remind myself constantly that there is a whole world of people out there who are nothing like the population that I spend all my work time with so I don't get an overly pessimistic view of how people raise their children, too.

I have similar problems because of my work.
I have a not-so-big house, and had a smaller house ... isn't "necessary" or aesthetically pleasing, doesn't get to stay forever!

Don't make me count the number of crates in my tiny house. At the moment, only 2 have their doors closed: Puppies Maybe and Cadence are having nap time together in a 450,

pictures please!
in the other is confined a juicy rawhide.

how many dogs are standing outside this crate?
I have a not-so-big house, and had a smaller house ... isn't "necessary" or aesthetically pleasing, doesn't get to stay forever!

The two favourites are the lamp stand crate (in the middle of the action) and the printer stand crate (it must vibrate when I do a lot of printing, and I am today).

We have a crate in the bedroom as a bedside stand. Sassy really likes it in there. I don't have another crate set up near the computer right now but when I do the dogs use it quick a bit.
I have plans this winter - after DH gets done with hunting season and agility season is slower - to build a bedside furniture crate. It will be out of the same cherry that we built the dressers of and will feature not only a crate below but a raised platform - at bed height - with a dog bed. A doggy bunkbed, if you will.
It's a prototype. It may be my next business. Retirement is starting to wear on me.
What do you think?
Judy
I have plans this winter - after DH gets done with hunting season and agility season is slower - to ... It's a prototype. It may be my next business. Retirement is starting to wear on me. What do you think?

I think it's a great idea. Actual furniture for dogs is something appealing. I saw a wood dog "crate" in some catalog. It looked like a dresser but the end was open with a door. It seemed pretty pricey, so the ability to build one on your own is a wonderful thing!

"They" are making crate more and more attractive lately. OTOH, some folks don't really understand what a dog may like. I saw some show where they basically cut a hole in kitchen cabinets. Oh yeah - a dog is always going to want to be shut in a small, dark space. A few, maybe, but not many.
My dogs have their own sofas in our home office Only 2, so 2 of the dogs have to share. They hop up on them for their see-ya-later treats whenever I leave the house. Franklin seems to stay there. Rudy, more often than not I think, and Lucy usually heads up to our bedroom afterward, but not always. They are often stretching off of them when I walk through the door.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
I have plans this winter - after DH gets done ... is starting to wear on me. What do you think?

I think it's a great idea. Actual furniture for dogs is something appealing. I saw a wood dog "crate" ... to our bedroom afterward, but not always. They are often stretching off of them when I walk through the door.

Zane must have been some sort of cave-dwelling creature in a former life. He's forever squeezing into some improbably small space, where he'll lurk happily for hours. Behind the couch, under the end table or the computer desk.
He'll even squirm his way under the bed which only has about 8" vertical clearance, forcing him to lie on his side and sort of swim. I normally don't mind except when one of the other dogs sounds the alarm, causing him to bark and thrash madly in his efforts to get out quickly. It's like a scene from "The Exorcist" with the bed thumping and levitating seeming on its own. To make matters worse, Cooper has been known to take advantage of the situation by taking cheap shots while Zane is still mostly stuck.
Scully and Cooper prefer my bed for lounging, although they'll lay around on the dog beds in the living room if that's where the rest of the family is.
Zane must have been some sort of cave-dwelling creature in a former life. He's forever squeezing into some improbably small ... the bed which only has about 8" vertical clearance, forcing him to lie on his side and sort of swim.

That's Lucy. Once, when traveling with a teammate for flyball, Lucy decided to hop into a BORDER TERRIER crate. She's a Lab/GSD. She sleeps under the bed most nights, or at least partial nights. Still, I think she'd draw the line at a small area in a cabinet. Darker and only one narrow way out would probably be the big factors.

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
He'll even squirm his way under the bed which only has about 8" vertical clearance, forcing him to lie on his side and sort of swim.

That's Cubbe. If a boarding kennel or veterinarian ever suggested that Cubbe should be confined in as small a space as under the pullout futon, I'd call it abuse. There's no way a dog should be expected to hang out in a dark place too low to turn around in without hitting the top. Yet she found the place herself, has never been forced or rewarded to go into it, and apparently loves it. Crates are another story, a necessity for enjoyable car rides but nothing she'll voluntarily have anything to do with otherwise.
Lia
Zane must have been some sort of cave-dwelling creature in ... him to lie on his side and sort of swim.

That's Lucy. Once, when traveling with a teammate for flyball, Lucy decided to hop into a BORDER TERRIER crate. She's ... at a small area in a cabinet. Darker and only one narrow way out would probably be the big factors.

That's the problem with the computer desk. Only one way in and one way out. It hasn't been much of an issue with this gang but my first BCs, Connor and Molly (an extremely weird and herdy dog), would periodically trap one another under the desk. Connor considered it his space and Molly mostly left it alone. Except when she didn't. He'd come ambling down the stairs and there she'd be, holed up in his spot. Or, he'd be in there and Molly would come and lay down right in front of the way out. D├ętente.
"They" are making crate more and more attractive lately. OTOH, some folks don't really understand what a dog may like. ... dog is always going to want to be shut in a small, dark space. A few, maybe, but not many.

I have seen some like that. One was a china cabinet-type thing with the center door forming the dog crate. No ventilation that I could see except perhaps some in the door, since on either side were storage compartments.

Very nice piece of furniture. But it made me think that the dog was just another thing to display on a shelf.
In my design, the top bunk would actually be a way of expanding my bed for some additional dog sleeping space.
One friend said he didn't want one because he figured the dogs would get his bed and he'd be the one curled up off to the side. But I think it would definitely work for Sassy. She likes to be with us but she gets hot easily.

Judy
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