I understand that schutzhund is a sport and that the dogs are trained to bite the sleeve. My question is whether or not a trained schutzhund dog, without any additional training in police work or personal protection, would be more inclined to bite an intruder than a dog that has not been trained to bite a sleeve? (The intruder is a bad guy and the dogs are identical. Both dogs have bonded with their owners and live indoors.)

an impossible question to answer as so much depends on the dog itself. in schutzhund, the dogs are required to be very dependablke in their obedience before they can begin bitework. so having a dog that is well-trained is always a plus. but as you say, it is a sport. when i was working with my schutzhund I GSD, i saw alot of dogs in training. to some of them it was a sport and only a game, but to others, it was more serious. even among schutzhund people, there seems to be a camp of those who say they have "real" dogs and those have "sport" dogs...

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I understand that schutzhund is a sport and that the dogs are trained to bite the sleeve. My question is ... intruder is a bad guy and the dogs are identical. Both dogs have bonded with their owners and live indoors.)

From my limited experience in Schutzhund the dogs see this as a fun sport. And in
reality the training which in some ways is almost second nature does not cause
any protection in the dog. In fact it is my understanding that one of the clubs
here has had an annual Halloween party and this has been tested to a degree. Of course any dog can sense a mock up staged pretend attack and a real attack.
Bottomline is the dogs did not leave the helper and continued to bark and hold
while a actor attacker preceded to pretend to choke the handler to death.

Again from my limited experience the dogs really see the jute sleeve as a toy
to be removed and run off the field with. It is in some ways all part of a game.
But don't take my word on this. I am sure others will comment in regards to this
question.
Gwen
My question is whether or not a trained schutzhund dog, without any additional training in police work or personal protection, would be more inclined to bite an intruder than a dog that has not been trained to bite a sleeve?

Impossible to say because protectiveness and ScH. training aren't related. However, they could be even less inclined, based on one incident I saw (anecdotal, I know). A sleeve-trained dog, ready to bite, stayed on the ground, scanning the person's forearms, looking confused. I believe he was so conditioned to the sleeve that the lack of one prevented a bite in a situation where an untrained dog would have bitten.
Lynn K.
Hi!
The question is: and if the intruder is not a bad guy? Schutzhund is a sport but it gives self control to the dog and control to the handler.
Probably an untrained dog would be more inclined to bite an intruder (bad guy or not) but only because he has fear or uncontrolled defensive drive.
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