Coming out of lurkdom to probe your minds with some questions about changing my parakeets' habitat!I have 9 parakeets in a large cage in an upstairs bdrm right now. I plan to relocate them to our sunroom downstairs pretty soon and am seeking some ideas of how to contain them safely so they don't go into the rest of the house. They are all unclipped and have free flight time daily - clipping them is not an option. I currently have beads hanging from the ceiling which may keep them in their part of the sunroom (which is about 12x10, give or take).

Is there another type of relatively inexpensive ceiling to floor barrier I could use that would be safe and effective, and nondamaging to walls/ceiling? The sunroom does not have an interior door - it opens up into the dining area with a pass-through window to the kitchen. That's why they need to be contained in their part of the room. The beads stop about a foot from the floor and while my expectation is that they will not be on the ground much, if at all, there is still some concern that they could somehow end up on the floor, hop under the beads and then be out.

Also, I'm looking for a good easy-to-make homemade playgym for budgies it's not vital, but would be nice. I plan to hang swings from the ceiling and possibly have real plants in the room for them as well (obviously safe ones). Would also love to have a small fountain of sorts for them to bathe in but am not sure what would be safe in that regard.

If anyone has set up a parakeet room or has any ideas about the above, I would love to hear them. I have already done some online searches but haven't seen what I have in mind.
Thanks greatly!
Thea
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If anyone has set up a parakeet room or has any ideas about the above, I would love to hear them. I have already done some online searches but haven't seen what I have in mind.

Our budgie birdroom is not elaborate. I have 4 budgies at this time in a room that is about 8 x 10. We have 3 cages set up; a large one they all sleep in at night; a medium one that they like to play in, with lots of mirrors and perches; and a small one I call the old age home for my oldest, more reserved English budgie who sometimes needs to get away from the "kids". That small cage is on the table in the center of the room. My birds are free-flighted also.

There are 2 doorways in the room (without actual doors)...one leads to the front living room and the other to the kitchen. I leave the kitchen doorway open most of the time because my birds rarely leave the bird room, yet the oldest one can fly onto my shoulder when I'm in the kitchen or come join us at dinnertime. However, I do have a lacy curtain across the larger doorway, using a spring rod to hang it. In the kitchen doorway I also have a spring rod with a heavier curtain that I keep open during the day, but close at night or if the birds absolutely have to be contained.
We built a perch tree using a tall 4 x 4 anchored in a heavy pot. There are 6 different sized perches at different levels, which we insert into drilled out holes in the pole, with toys and mirror perches attached. We also have 4 window perches on the one window.

We don't have a fountain, but have 2 large baths hanging on the outside of the cages. We have a budgie playground but they rarely use it. They prefer to run around on the table, sit on the window perches or perch tree, or play on the manzanita perch I have anchored to the top of the large cage. They rarely sit on the swings.

I'm not sure about your bead wall. My birds would fly through that without giving it a second thought. If you really need to keep them in that room, you'll need something long enough to cover the entire doorway. Mine have snuck under the lace curtain a time or two, and the other English who ends up on the floor quite often has somehow gotten under the heavier curtain too.
Sounds like a fun project. Good luck!
If anyone has set up a parakeet room or has ... online searches but haven't seen what I have in mind.

Our budgie birdroom is not elaborate. I have 4 budgies at this time in a room that is about 8 ... the "kids". That small cage is on the table in the center of the room. My birds are free-flighted also.

Thanks for your tips - they sound good and I'll give them serious consideration. I, too, was concerned about the bead curtain not deterring them. Your idea sounds good too, but I want them to be visible through the barrier and even lace would obscure them. I could do very sheer panels, I suppose but will need to investigate that. Getting something to go from ceiling to floor effectively might be challenging.

It would be nice to have a hanging (from ceiling) bird bath, but it would need to be something that can easily be cleaned and refreshed, so an insert bowl of some sort would be best.
Thanks again for your reply - I want to offer my keets a veritable budgie play room where they're safe and the rest of my house/stuff is safe!! Oh - one other question - I have an old faux ficus tree - do you think it's safe to keep it in the room with them? If there is glue used in it, probably not, as they may decide to chew. Just wondering if anyone else has done that sort of thing.
Thea
.. Is there another type of relatively inexpensive ceiling to floor barrier I could use that would be safe and effective, and nondamaging to walls/ceiling?

Any style of drapping material could be easily hung and provide a workable barrier for your budgies.
Also, I'm looking for a good easy-to-make homemade playgym for budgies it's not vital, but would be nice.

I have made playgyms out of dowels. You can also bring in multi-branched branches which have been anchored into cheap planters. If you use branches, take the following steps:
Wash thoroughly with soap and water. The idea is to remove any accumulations of dirt and pesticide residues. Use a green scrubby pad like 3-M makes. A good pressure washer will also be effective. I've even taken large branches to the car wash for this first step.

Rinse well with clean water. Rinse several times. Allow to dry.

Use sandpaper or scrapers to remove all loose bark and scale.

Rinse with clean water. Allow to dry.
Spray the branch until dripping wet with a 10% solution of household bleach. Allow to sit for 10 minutes.
Thoroughly rinse with clean water. Allow to dry. There will not be any problem with residual bleach.
Here's a picture of one branch 'gym' that I use. It is from one of my fruit trees.
http://tinypic.com/view.php?pic=81yhzza&s=1

Dave
www.davebbq.com
Also, the barrier that I want for them needs to be see-through simply because they are in half of a 12x24 sunroom and my Congo Grey is in the other half. I want to still be able hear and see the keets,but at the same time, effectively keep them where they are. I'm not so concerned about their visiting the Grey - they are good fliers and can get away from him if need be - I just don't want them to get into the rest of the house where there's a vaulted ceiling and getting them back would be a challenge (wait till dark and then get them would be the thing).

They're not afraid of me or anything, but also not tame enough to come to me. So, in short, I'm not sure what type of draping material would fit the bill. That's why beads seemed to be a solution, but maybe not.
Thanks again and I welcome any other suggestions from anyone on the group!

T.
Any style of drapping material could be easily hung and provide a workable barrier for your budgies. Dave,

Thanks for sharing the info and photo. What kind of wood did you use for your play gym? We have ... want to be sure it's safe (and yes, I have a list of safe woods, but was curious about yours?).

Dowels are made from common domestic hardwoods and firs. There wouldn't be an issue of safety.
Also, the barrier that I want for them needs to be see-through simply because they are in half of a ... want to still be able hear and see the keets,but at the same time, effectively keep them where they are.

A clear, heavy-guage shower curtain will work. You can also go to a restauraunt supply store and purchase clear plastic strip curtains, the kind that are used for walk-in coolers.

Dave
www.davebbq.com
Thanks for the ideas - I thought the wood on the playgym in your photo looked like it was taken from the outdoors directly - that's why I asked. The plastic strip curtains may be a good option - someone else suggested screen-like material that is like a flexible fabric, which can be hung, so may look into that.
Again, thanks for suggestions - appreciate them all!

T.
Thanks for the ideas - I thought the wood on the playgym in your photo looked like it was taken from the outdoors directly - that's why I asked.

I see. As I had mentioned in my post it is a play tree branch which I pruned off of one of my fruit trees. It isn't a playgym which I make out of wooden dowels. I was just trying to point out that you don't need a 'gym' per se; just any thing that budgies can perch and climb around on.
The plastic strip curtains may be a good option - someone else suggested screen-like material that is like a flexible fabric, which can be hung, so may look into that. Again, thanks for suggestions - appreciate them all!

You're welcome.

Dave
www.davebbq.com
(snip) A clear, heavy-guage shower curtain will work. You can also go to a restauraunt supply store and purchase clear plastic strip curtains, the kind that are used for walk-in coolers.

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Thea, it sounds like your budgies are going to have a great room once you're finished.
As far as a "door" goes, what I use in my birds' room is a wooden door frame with top and bottom open spaces or inserts. These open inserts have a fine mesh screen over them so I can look into the room and see the birds clearly. I attached six small square magnets to the outside door frame of the room. On the back of the screen door, I also attached magnets in the same locations as the other six magnets, so the door snaps on and off easily. This keeps the birds safely inside the room at all times with no chance of escape. The screen door is fairly lightweight and I can easily remove it. Most home-improvement or hardware stores carry doors like the one I use for my birds' room.

A viynl see-through shower curtain is a good idea, too. However, if you prefer a fabric curtain of sorts, remember that lace is holey and if the birds fly to it and attach themselves to the lace curtain, their toes or toenails may get stuck in the small holes of the fabric and they may injure their legs or feet trying to get free. If you clip your budgies' nails this might not prove to be a problem. Also to deter birds from perhaps escaping under the fabric curtain if they land on the floor, you can sew weights into the bottom hem of the curtain to make the curtain heavier and more escape-proof.
Anyway, I hope these ideas help. Happy holidays to you and yours.
LindaA
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