Would you share stories of a new addition to your pack adopting the attitudes and behaviors of its mates?
Fosters 'with problems' are no problem here. Until I have more evidence, I'll believe it's Mac, 'the unassuming Alpha', as friends call him. `He does so little just a direct stare at questionable behavior. It seems to be enough.
He needs a new cognomen, though.
It wouldn't occur to him to question anything I ask him to do .."Beta in chief"?
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Would you share stories of a new addition to your pack adopting the attitudes and behaviors of its mates? Fosters ... a new cognomen, though. It wouldn't occur to him to question anything I ask him to do .."Beta in chief"?

It depends on the personalities of the dogs. I have dogs who are by nature not biddable creatures. Kavik told me whenever little Toklat needed to pee or wanted out of his crate, but he never told me when Toklat was drinking out of the toilet or eating garbage. In fact, he helped him eat the garbage, once it was removed from the can. Kavik knows taking garbage out of the can IS NOT ALLOWED, but eating it once its out is perfectly ok with him.
Kavik knows taking garbage out of the can IS NOT ALLOWED, but eating it once its out is perfectly ok with him.

Toklat made him do it. Kavik's paws are clean.

He's...cleaning up after his younger brother. Yeah, that's it!

Lee
Would you share stories of a new addition to your pack adopting the attitudes and behaviors of its mates?

in our house it was the opposite. Manu moved in and took over, started enforcing his rules. Lola has a habit of running to the door, turning around, and barking at us when she wants out. Manu moved in and immediately started biting her muzzle to shut her up.
he did learn basic obedience more quickly, i think thanks in part to Lola, but mostly, he just bosses her around.
-kelly
mostly, he just bosses her around. -kellyThe new boy in town took over?

Pondering 'Alpha stuff', again. The current APDT newsletter features an article, "An Examination of the Use of the Ethological Perspective for Resolving Inter-Dog Aggression Problems' ..(whew!). The author holds that 'Alpha theory' relies on observation of captive wolf packs, and that neither wild wolves nor feral dog packs follow that model. Has anyone done systematic observation of inter-action at dog-parks? There should be something to learn there.
Has anyone done systematic observation of inter-action at dog-parks?

I recently read "The Dog Listener." It took a long time to get through because every so often I'd throw it across the room, and sometimes I felt like going over and picking it up and resuming reading and sometimes I didn't.
The premise is that after spending time with Monty Roberts, Fennell decided to apply similar techniques to dogs. She spent some months observing her dogs interact and decided that what she was seeing mirrored what had been observed in wolf packs. From that she extrapolated that pretty much all behavioral and training problems stem from issues related to ill-defined leadership - either the dog thinks he's in charge, or the dog feels the responsibility to take charge and isn't up to the task. I do believe that her when she says she gets good results, but I think that her results have other, more obvious explanations.

Anyway, an example of someone who's done (and written about) what you asked about.

Melinda Shore - Software longa, hardware brevis - (Email Removed)

The Bush administration is spending more on TV ads about Medicare than it would cost to create a safe system for importing prescripion medicines.
I recently read "The Dog Listener." It took a long time to get through because every so often I'd throw ... thrown it back and forth. I just re-examined it after throwing it on first skimming, and find it .. suggestive?

Pondering her analogy that separation anxiety is not a child who's lost its parent, but the frantic reaction of a parent who's lost its child. I was puzzled why Mac, 100% bonded, doesn't exhibit it. Then, because he never disputes me, a friend said, "He thinks you're his mother." Maybe, "Mama knows best" is the belief of a relaxed dog?
The premise is that after spending time with Monty Roberts, Fennell decided to apply similar techniques to dogs.

She decided to tell everyone how marvelous she is and mishandle/misinterpret dogs? Sweet.
M.
She decided to tell everyone how marvelous she is and mishandle/misinterpret dogs? Sweet.

Same basic idea, yup.

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The Bush administration is spending more on TV ads about Medicare than it would cost to create a safe system for importing prescripion medicines.
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