Hi,
I have a 10 weeks Shih Tzu and I am having problems for paper training her. This is the scenario:
- I put a excercise pen in my basement with a pad in one side and her water and bed with some toys in the other side.
- My goal is to make her go to the basement to drink water, pee and poo. Also, in fixed times I will put her food there as well

- Myself and my wife work all day long, so the puppy stays in the pen all day long by herself. She mostly make all her pee and poop in the correct place (pad), when locked inside the pen.
The problem:
As soon as we get at home, we get her from the exercise pen and start monitoring her. When I notice she is doing some "pee dancing", I bring her to the basement and place her inside the exercise pen, but I can stay there forever and nothing. When I forgive and bring her upstairs, she quickly pee or poo.
Then, I say strongly NO and bring her to the pad, but it seems to not be working.
So, anyone has any tip the best way to training my puppy to make her "needs" in the basement? I wouldn't like to put a pad in the main floor's washroom, for instance, once I prefer to have her making her needs in the basement.
Thanks!
Rob.
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I can't imagine having a wee pup crawling up and down stairs on its own. Make it easy for her to succeed. Put a pad in the bathroom upstairs.
Hope
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I agree; I also can't imagine a small puppy to be expected to go down to a basement to pee and poop on a pad.
For a small pup like that to even go up and down basement stairs alone is scary enough, but to expect it to go down the stairs, pee on a pad and come back up seems impossible to me.
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Hi,
First of all thanks for your advise. Putting a pad in the upstairs bathroom will not make the puppy understand that this is her bathroom "forever"? I mean, will not be hard to move it to the basement later on?
I am bringing her to the basement as soon as she start smelling the floor. And it's not working. When she gets her exercise pen, nothing happen. She just start playing or sleep. I am pretty sure both of you are right, however my only concern if about her understanding the upstair bathroom to be the permanent one.
Thanks!
Rob
First of all thanks for your advise. Putting a pad in the upstairs bathroom will not make the puppy understand that this is her bathroom "forever"? I mean, will not be hard to move it to the basement later on?

I still can't figure out why it's more desirable to take her to the basement than just teach her to eliminate outdoors. Why don't you want her going OUTside?

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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Hi, First of all thanks for your advise. Putting a pad in the upstairs bathroom will not make the puppy ... are right, however my only concern if about her understanding the upstair bathroom to be the permanent one. Thanks! Rob==

I am guessing that it is the pad that she recognizes to pee on and not the room the pad is in.
Years ago, when I had a Lhasa Apso puppy, I laid a paper on one part of the kitchen floor and put baby gates up to separate the kitchen from the other rooms. I trained the pup to go on the paper and then each day moved the paper closer to the back door until one day it was on the top stair of the back stairway. Then, I moved the paper down the stairs and onto the grass where the pup peed from then on. He never peed or pooped off of the paper while in the kitchen, so my theory was to just move the paper outdoors. Once outdoors, he didn't need the paper anymore.
Once outdoors, he didn't need the paper anymore.

Why not make it easier and just use outdoors to begin with?

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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That would be preferable, but since the pup is being left alone for long periods (NOT IDEAL) they need to provide a potty place for her during the day time.I actually used a product called Woody Pet when I got Faith. Our hours can sometimes be unpredictable, and even with having hubby come home at lunch (which he's always done, wasn't just a puppy thing) we occassionally had to stay later at work that we wanted. We felt better knowing that if she had to go, she could do so appropriately. When home we took her out frequently, but even with that there were times she'd toddle over to the litterbox and pee.

Until her bladder caught up with us human brains it was nice to know that we had a safety net. And it was especially nice when the temps were below zero, as I could have her potty in the litter box instead of bundling up to go outside. She is an extra super duper smart pooch, but we never had issues with housetraining.
Hope
That would be preferable, but since the pup is being left alone for long periods (NOT IDEAL) they need to provide a potty place for her during the day time.

I agree, and she's apparently doing fine with the daytime arrangement. What I don't get is why, when the OP is HOME and TAKING her to the basement, why he can't just TAKE her OUTSIDE! Then again, I wouldn't have a puppy if I wasn't willing to make sure they could be taken out as needed midday (or in the case of toy breeds, possibly 2x during midday).
I actually used a product called Woody Pet when I got Faith. Our hours can sometimes be unpredictable, and even ... bundling up to go outside. She is an extra super duper smart pooch, but we never had issues with housetraining.

I can't imagine doing that with a non-toy puppy, but a litter box or grass pad would be my choice over "pee-pee pads" if necessary as well.

Bundling up to go out is just one of dog ownership's little "perks" - fresh air and all of that!!

Janet Boss
www.bestfriendsdogobedience.com
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