I have finally gotten the boys completely switched over to the Eagle Pack food. They are already looking better and, thankfully, pooping less. For the first few days, they were eating less food - about 3 cups each- and even leaving a few kibbles in the dish. Now, though, they are eating 4 cups and acting like they are starving. Vet said its because they were used to a higher volume, so they had big stomachs. He said just tell them to "suck it up" and their demands will go down as their stomachs shrink back to a smaller size.
Anyone have experience with this? They are fed 2X a day, 2 cups each time.

dainerra
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I have finally gotten the boys completely switched over to the Eagle Pack food. They are already looking better ... a few kibbles in the dish. Now, though, they are eating 4 cups and acting like they are starving.

That is a lot of food - how big are they? Cut them back to the right amount and make sure they've got plenty of chew toys.
Ironically, at the moment I'm reading a NY Times article on the low-carb fad spreading to people who aren't dieting, in a section on how the American tendency to overeat is the biggest impediment to weight loss.

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That is a lot of food - how big are they? Cut them back to the right amount and make sure they've got plenty of chew toys.

Cypher, lab-mix 1 year old is 68 lbs. Rayden 6 month GSD is 65 lbs 3 ozs. They are both a good weight for their size, according to the vet. He keeps posters of "Is your dog too fat" all over his office. You can see their ribs (or feel, in Rayden's case) and they have a waist when you look down on them. Both of them are very active and you can tell at dinner time if they've had a lazy day. Yesterday we were gone most of the day, so they got less exercise; this morning, they picked at breakfast and only ate a few bites each.
The bag said approx 2-3 cups of food. I re-checked my adding and they are eating a bit over 3 1/2 cups each most days. With the Pro-plan, they were eating a little over 5 cups on "active" days; that's why I switched foods.

The vet said that cheaper foods expand more also, making the stomach stretch even more. So Im going to take them back to about 3 to 3 1/2 cups and see if they maintain their weight. If they start gaining, Ill cut them back further.
Ironically, at the moment I'm reading a NY Times article on the low-carb fad spreading to people who aren't dieting, in a section on how the American tendency to overeat is the biggest impediment to weight loss.

Id believe that. My immediate family isnt "overweight," just the usual extra couple of pounds. But no WAY do we eat a serving of food as listed on the box. Look at the servings at restuarants too...

dainerra
Cypher, lab-mix 1 year old is 68 lbs. Rayden 6 month GSD is 65 lbs 3 ozs.

I didn't realize that they're that young. That doesn't sound as outlandish, then. My biggest dog (now at 65 pounds) was eating 4 cups/day until he was about 2, and Siberians are known to be easy keepers (he's now at 2 cups/day - same stuff you're feeding). Just keep an eye on their weight and tweak as appropriate.

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Cypher, lab-mix 1 year old is 68 lbs. Rayden 6 month GSD is 65 lbs 3ozs.

I didn't realize that they're that young. That doesn't sound as outlandish, then. My biggest dog (now at 65 pounds) ... now at 2 cups/day - same stuff you're feeding). Just keep an eye on their weight and tweak as appropriate.

ok, thanks. Ill keep them around 3 1/2 and go up or down as needed from there. So far, they are LOVING the new food. Im glad that they kind of self-regulate how much they eat. Ive seen dogs that would eat as long as there was food, even if they werent hungry.
dainerra
Ironically, at the moment I'm reading a NY Times article on the low-carb fad spreading to people who aren't dieting, in a section on how the American tendency to overeat is the biggest impediment to weight loss.

An aside...
I know that, after being on a low-carb "diet" for nearly
6 mos. now, one of the biggest things is actually paying attentionto what I eat. I was a big-time snacker. And, while I wasn't terribly overweight (my Dr. suggested I lose 15 lbs to ease the pressure on a bone injury, I've actually lost 30), I could not lose weight by any "normal" measures. I have always been active , and a fairly healthy eater, but I loved to have small snacks (that obviously weren't good for me!) several times a day because I would get light-headed if I became too hungry (pre-diet). Now I just eat several smaller meals a day as opposed to
2 big oneswith a lot of snacking.
Not to mention my cholesterol level has actually gone down.

Shelly (Who doesn't gorge on bacon & eggs, and indulges in the occasional fruit or Burgerville Chocolate Hazelnut milkshake now & then) & The Boys
It's time for me to tweak again. Seems as though they flunctuate somewhat between too thin to just right but closing in on what I consider not preferable.
So it is time for me to cut each of them back some. I didn't ever think I was going to get Clovis to that point. I finally have. So it is definitely time to cut her portions down a tad.
Gwen
I know that, after being on a low-carb "diet" for nearly 6 mos. now, one of the biggest things is actually paying attention to what I eat.

My theory is that Americans are so sick and fat because American tastes tend toward processed foods which are all full of refined sugars, white flour, and preservatives.
Since I started eating low-carb 9 days ago, I haven't eaten as much as a teaspoon of sugar or flour, and I've had no processed foods. Just meat, eggs, and vegetables. I'm also writing down everything I eat, and I read labels very carefully. I've lost 8 pounds.
That NY Times article was interesting to me because it plays up the fact that food manufacturers are figuring out how to mimic processed foods people like in 'low-carb' versions. That stuff is going to make people sick and fat, too, and it'll be just like overweight people now choosing only Snackwell cookies and then eating the whole box.
Back to dogs: I hope to get Orson on a raw diet in the coming months, and the cat on a canned diet, because I hold my theory about preservatives and refined crap for pets too.
Cate
Since I started eating low-carb 9 days ago, I haven't eaten as much as a teaspoon of sugar or flour, ... eggs, and vegetables. I'm also writing down everything I eat, and I read labels very carefully. I've lost 8 pounds.

I know people who've done really well on low-carb diets and I respect that, but I don't understand why complex carbohydrates are considered bad or where glycogen comes from if you're not eating carbs, or how it is that people on these diets don't feel fatigued all the time.

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